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      05-31-2017, 05:48 PM   #67
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Originally Posted by GuidoK View Post
No?
A customer of mine, who is one of the world leaders on large scale hydraulics (I'm not talking about hydraulics on an excavator, but 60 meter long rams on $5 billion oil drillin ships etc; very very expensive equipment, they are from origin a dutch company (parental holding is german since a decade or 2 I think).
Guess where they also have production plants...
China, India...
If you dont think large high quality stuff is made in china, you've not been there
Thing is, all design, quality control, expertise is controlled by westerners.
They make stuff all over the world because those drilling ships (and other products) are also build in those parts.
Shipbuilding is rapidly moving from south korea to china.
2 of the largest shipyard/manufactureres are chinese ones. There are 2 japanese ones in the top 10 and the rest is south korean.
NONE is US based. NONE is european based.
That is specialized B2B industry that likely partially exists because transporting such large apparti to oil fields costs more than producing it regionally. Consumers have no perception of this.

Also: large doesn't necessarily mean quality. China has had the manpower to maintain a shipbuilding industry that could crush all others several times over for at least a couple of hundred years. But China has never been a serious seafaring nation -- and it still isn't. It's only become one since WWII out of perceived necessity. Meanwhile, Japan always has been one. So has Korea. So has the U.S. So has the UK. So has France ...

... but I digress. The only two reasons China can build ships of any import now is because it has to to maintain its export logistics, and it has manpower to spare that have now been trained by foreign interests. Neither reason compels China to make great ships. It simply compels it to make a whole buttload of 'em.
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