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      12-28-2008, 08:21 PM   #60
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Originally Posted by aggie57 View Post
Like most Americans in favour of guns you miss the point. Here in Australia we start with the premise that carrying a weapon such as a gun (or others such as a flick knife...) in general society makes a statement about intent to use a level of violence against others which is unacceptable.
That is the most unbelievably idiotic thought process I've ever heard. So clearly I must be a criminal intent on committing mass murder because I carry a sidearm and knives? Never mind that I've never been convicted of crime of any kind, and have passed numerous federal and state backgrounds on a regular basis?

And I know quite a few Australians, and I've never heard one of them utter such nonsense. They are all in the military though, so maybe that is the difference. They are "sheep dogs" and not "sheep." You are clearly one of the "sheep."

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We do not ban sharp knives because they can be used as a weapon. Every house in the country has plenty of them for valid purposes (cutting the Xmas ham for example!). But we do ban most types of guns because they can be nothing but a weapon.
So you use a knife to carve a ham? How about using a firearm to shoot the pig, so that you can have your Christmas ham? So now the firearm is a tool, used to put food on the table. You can use a firearm for target shooting. It is even an Olympic SPORT. Try to control your breathing and heart rate to such levels that you can put a shot into 3mm at 50m (using the metric system for you.) I've just given you two examples of firearms not being used soley as "weapons." They are multi-purpose tools, and not simply just "weapons."

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Yes, there are people who will always work outside these laws. Can we change that - history tells us we can't. So we return to the first point......
Uh, what? Are you saying that since some people will always operate outside the law, one way to indentify them is to see if they are carrying weapons? So carrying a weapon is a defacto indicator of the willingness to commit crimes? Wow, just wow.
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