iPhone GPS while in charging dock

FlashMonkey929 · 01-17-2023, 07:09 PM

So I was driving home today and pulled up Google maps just to see, and I hade absolutely no issues. My drive was only about 4 miles in the city from the dealer to home, but it was rock solid

jishman · 01-17-2023, 07:38 PM

I gotta say, your strong response to do nothing and that I'm in the wrong boggles my mind.

A new $50K car rendering a key aspect of a phone completely useless (not just Nav, but other apps and phone features that use GPS which in 2023 are...most!) is a major safety issue. Trying to get BMW to urgently address it is more than a reasonable response, and based on their email to me today, at least the Genius rep doesn't seem to be acknowledging it's even a known issue!

But at least I can say I pissed off a Canadian today.

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Originally Posted by BMWZ4

Didn't someone just post in this thread that there's a solution pending for the iPhone/GPS issue? Who gives a toss what the "genius" replied back with...but yeah, file a complaint with your AG...clog up the system even further for such a frivolous issue (use BMW nav until BMW/apple get the issue resolved).

Christ folks are wound tight. Boggles the mind

BMWZ4 · 01-17-2023, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by jishman

I gotta say, your strong response to do nothing and that I'm in the wrong boggles my mind.

A new $50K car rendering a key aspect of a phone completely useless (not just Nav, but other apps and phone features that use GPS which in 2023 are...most!) is a major safety issue. Trying to get BMW to urgently address it is more than a reasonable response, and based on their email to me today, at least the Genius rep doesn't seem to be acknowledging it's even a known issue!

But at least I can say I pissed off a Canadian today.

I'm not pissed off in the least my American friend! I was only pointing out that you're getting upset over nothing. It was posted previously that a fix is pending. Who gives a rat's ass if the non-genius provided you with some cookie-cutter response? Honestly.

As far as I can tell, there's no danger posed, since you can use BMW's nav until the issue is resolved.

But hey, good luck filing the complaint. By the time the AGs office actually does anything, the issue will likely be resolved.

EDIT: even $50k vehicles have issues. The price of a vehicle doesn't dictate the number of errors that could exist. Happens on 6 figure vehicles as well

tex2670 · 01-17-2023, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by jishman

I gotta say, your strong response to do nothing and that I'm in the wrong boggles my mind.

A new $50K car rendering a key aspect of a phone completely useless (not just Nav, but other apps and phone features that use GPS which in 2023 are...most!) is a major safety issue. Trying to get BMW to urgently address it is more than a reasonable response, and based on their email to me today, at least the Genius rep doesn't seem to be acknowledging it's even a known issue!

But at least I can say I pissed off a Canadian today.

LOL it's not a "major safety issue"; BMW factory nav works perfectly fine. Genius is just not a genius in this case. It will get fixed.

We all took a flyer buying a brand new model sight unseen; there's bound to be glitches when that happens.

BMWZ4 · 01-17-2023, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by tex2670

LOL it's not a "major safety issue"; BMW factory nav works perfectly fine. Genius is just not a genius in this case. It will get fixed.

We all took a flyer buying a brand new model sight unseen; there's bound to be glitches when that happens.

Exactly right. New models, new iDrive, (some) new phones...bound to be issues and all bound to be addressed.

P.s. Born and raised in Boston. Folks moved to Montreal when I was about 3-ish eventually moving to Toronto

staden · 01-17-2023, 11:25 PM

There are two solutions to this problem.

1) Sell your car and get a car from another brand
2) Sell your phone and get an Android phone, as they 'just work'

jishman · 01-18-2023, 12:07 AM

Man...the BMW Kool Aid is extra strong round these parts! Shame on me for expecting a new car that doesn't screw up my phone and trusted apps.

I downloaded the iDrive update tonight. Fingers crossed it fixes the issue and makes this all water under the bridge.

tex2670 · 01-18-2023, 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by staden

There are two solutions to this problem.

1) Sell your car and get a car from another brand
2) Sell your phone and get an Android phone, as they 'just work'

;-)

3) Use BMW navigation until the issue is resolved.

FlashMonkey929 · 01-18-2023, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by jishman

Man...the BMW Kool Aid is extra strong round these parts! Shame on me for expecting a new car that doesn't screw up my phone and trusted apps.

I downloaded the iDrive update tonight. Fingers crossed it fixes the issue and makes this all water under the bridge.

I get your frustration, but I think we’ll be seeing problems like this more and more in the future, not just with BMW. Development for the software likely started well before iOS16 was released, so it’s possible they weren’t able to test everything to the fullest extent before it went into production. Cross platform compatibility will always have issues like this now that so many things are software based. If this update does take care of it, it’s likely they were aware of the issue but weren’t able to implement it during production for time constraints or other difficulties.

tex2670 · 01-18-2023, 12:47 PM

My software update is completed. Will try GPS on my way home tonite.

bluecrabby · 01-18-2023, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by tex2670

My software update is completed. Will try GPS on my way home tonite.

I'm trying to remember if you were the one in the Philly area who ordered the X1 with Driving Assistance Pro? Someone said that his X1 would be one of the first ones arriving in the US with that $1700 option...

Thanks!

tex2670 · 01-18-2023, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by bluecrabby

I'm trying to remember if you were the one in the Philly area who ordered the X1 with Driving Assistance Pro? Someone said that his X1 would be one of the first ones arriving in the US with that $1700 option...

Thanks!

no my order was placed before this was available

bluecrabby · 01-18-2023, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by tex2670

no my order was placed before this was available

you mean there's more than one guy from Philly who ordered the X1!!!???

(guess I'll have to hunt down that thread when I get home)

tex2670 · 01-18-2023, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by bluecrabby

you mean there's more than one guy from Philly who ordered the X1!!!???

(guess I'll have to hunt down that thread when I get home)

The white X1 I saw in front of my dealer the nite before I picked mine up is gone, so yeah -- there's one other.....

tex2670 · 01-18-2023, 06:29 PM

I have some news!

I tried the GPS on my way home from work ... it showed the correct location for the entire 10 miles in Apple Maps, Waze and Google Maps.

Fingers crossed!!

bcdx93 · 01-18-2023, 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tex2670

I have some news!

I tried the GPS on my way home from work ... it showed the correct location for the entire 10 miles in Apple Maps, Waze and Google Maps.

Fingers crossed!!

BMWZ4 · 01-18-2023, 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tex2670

I have some news!

I tried the GPS on my way home from work ... it showed the correct location for the entire 10 miles in Apple Maps, Waze and Google Maps.

Fingers crossed!!

Good thing you didn't enlist your State AG

Glad it appears to be sorted

CER · 01-19-2023, 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by tex2670

I got a notice when I shut down my car this evening that there is a software update pending download. But I don't think anyone has verified that the update specifically addresses this issue.

I have had that "new" version since day 1 and have had the GPS issue on a regular basis.

tex2670 · 01-19-2023, 07:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tex2670

I have some news!

I tried the GPS on my way home from work ... it showed the correct location for the entire 10 miles in Apple Maps, Waze and Google Maps.

Fingers crossed!!

NOT FIXED

FlashMonkey929 · 01-19-2023, 08:23 AM

I wonder what’s going on. I’ve been using Apple Maps every time I drove in the past 2 days and it’s been perfect. Tried Google Maps once and that was also fine. I’ll try Waze tomorrow and see.

Just for data points:

iDrive software: 11/2022.44

2023 X1 xDrive 28i, Premium and MSport

iPhone 13Pro running iOS 16.1.1
Apple MagSafe case

Phone always in wireless charger

Region: Hawaii

tex2670 · 01-19-2023, 08:31 AM

Mine was good for about 4-5 miles today, then suddenly jumped off course.

tracythorne · 01-19-2023, 05:40 PM

I have had version 11/2022.27 since day one when I picked up my car last year, and I have continued to have the problem since then and up until now.

Looks like it’s gonna be a while.

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