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So an officer would actually prefer to kill someone off duty right?
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Outside of that, LEOs, being charged with upholding the law, can not entirely be treated the same as a non LEO with regards to the use of deadly force. While they do have the option to prioritize their own live over someone who may be in need of help or protection, they also can exercise their right as a LEO to remain engaged in any situation until the perpetrator has been subdued or the threat has been eliminated. THAT authority has been given to them by the municipality who hired them. You are entitled to any emotion you choose when it comes to due process for LEOs involved in the use of deadly force. But given their authority, entrusted to them by the municipality you voted into power, they can not be tried in the eyes of the law through the same process as a non LEO. As a society, we can not give police authority and hold them to a different standard and then treat them the same as anyone else once the exercise that authority. When one of those alleged abuses of power takes place, a jury usually decides whether or not an indictment is justified. They look at evidence and testimony submitted by the prosecution, they can request additional evidence and testimony as well, but the defendant is not allowed to submit any type of defensive evidence or testimony. The odds are stacked against the defendant being scrutinized by the jury. Do you think officer Darren Wilson in enjoying his life as it is right now? He may not be in jail, he is certainly not dead, but his life is forever changed, and not for the better. I'm not suggesting that police should receive unquestioned impunity. But the difference that HAS to be made between the treatment of LEOs and non LEOs due to the fact that the use of deadly force is part of a LEO's job description. With that caveat, society has to base their decision to indict on criminal intent or the possibility of negligence rather than whether or not a law was violated.
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Yes off duty is a freebie. Sorry I forgot to mention that.
Good Lord you people... Just for you Nkc shooting someone off duty is actually a lot worse than shooting someone on duty. An officer would rather not have to take someones life on duty or off. In fact, during an off duty shooting it is a coin flip if your agency will support you or not. For this reason most of not all LEO carry professional liability insurance so they can be covered in such an event. Im not sure what you do for work Nkc. But for most people a productive day is measured by sales, how they deal with clients, or maybe how many files they worked on. For a law enforcement officer a productive day is being alive at the end of a shift. Last edited by f10inSD; 01-17-2015 at 01:51 AM.. |
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What a sh*t storm. Ofc theres cops that abuse their power, but theres also criminals that will rob and shoot you.
It's pretty easy, just obey, they tell you too put your hands in the air you do it, it's common sense, if you fail to obey thoae rules there will be consequences. Some result in death BUt if you behave and do what you're told you will fine. |
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This is why police are extra aggressive and have heightened sensitivity dealing with potential criminal
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And if you believe in all that fluf BS you're trippin.. I used to work for Wells Fargo, a bank notorious for gaming and inflating sales numbers. If you ask anyone, they'll say omg you think Wells Fargo lets people get away with that??? They will fire entire branches for gaming.. You honestly believe every manager, district manager, market president etc doesn't know gaming is happening.. No one gives a fk.
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Shouldn't it be the other way around. Armed guy killed by cop .. Unarmed guys don't kill cops..
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You win you're the best. Obviously since a manager at Wells Fargo doesn't care about employees inflating sales numbers… Everyone in an officers chain of command up the the mayor or head of an agency doesn't care if officers are out shooting people for fun. Perfect analogy sir. Kudos. Last edited by f10inSD; 01-17-2015 at 12:48 PM.. |
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It's not just 1 manager it's how the company is structured. They can change how their sales work or start holding people accountable and the gaming would stop. Obviously the analogy went completely over your head but it's ok it was my fault .. I expected more
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Never said anything about the cop deserving it
So please, don't misquote me
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Unarmed doesn't mean NOT dangerous.
This naked Ninja was beating the crap out of 3 cops even after getting tased. Fortunately , private parts are covered/censored.
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Not sure which video you are watching. The only getting the crap beaten out of him is the naked ninja.
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The legal system worked as it should, and determined that the officers in these cases (not really sure what cases you're referring to since you haven't posted a source for your claims) were justified. You can disagree with the outcome, but have you looked through the evidence for yourself? Or are you just regurgitating something someone else told you?
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One of my brothers customers was a jury for a murder case. He said he personally didn't think the guy was guilty and also said they didn't let anyone out of the jury room until everyone agreed on the same verdict.
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Here in Cali, cops are never off duty, just out of uniform.
I know some personally who are in fear of their family's life because of the job they have done. I know for a fact they didn't want to have to shoot. There are lists with bounties, just like the Crime Stoppers, for cops who have discharged their weapons. |
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