[FStop7]

maybe it's not because she's iranian but because she's a woman. woman drivers FTL. sorry, but it's just the truth.

[Italteen3]

Originally Posted by -=Hot|Ice=-

You obviously have no knowledge of Iran. Woman have been driving there for years now. Get your facts straight, then come back to me and tell me I pulled the racism card.

I'm sure if my mom wasn't wearing her scarf, it would of gone down the same way.

I can't even say that without laughing.

I hate it when people don't know what they're talking about.

So you KNOW for a FACT that if she didn't have the scarf on that he would have willingly admitted fault to the cop instead of changing his story? Unless he was wearing a shirt that said "I hate Iranians" I don't see how you KNOW it was racism. I'm not saying it wasn't racism, and I don't know the whole story, but what if 888 is right and the real reason he changed his story is because his friends said they have his back? It's like a fight in HS all your friends see there friend hit someone and have his back telling the principal that the other person swung first.

About the ticket there should be no problem getting that wiped away. Like others have said if there was a redlight camera there she would have a ticket if she blew it, or a regular camera would screw the other driver as well. So when she doesn't get one she has the ticket waived.

Glad your mom is ok though! That is the most important thing.

[-=Hot|Ice=-]

Originally Posted by Italteen3

So you KNOW for a FACT that if she didn't have the scarf on that he would have willingly admitted fault to the cop instead of changing his story? Unless he was wearing a shirt that said "I hate Iranians" I don't see how you KNOW it was racism. I'm not saying it wasn't racism, and I don't know the whole story, but what if 888 is right and the real reason he changed his story is because his friends said they have his back? It's like a fight in HS all your friends see there friend hit someone and have his back telling the principal that the other person swung first.

About the ticket there should be no problem getting that wiped away. Like others have said if there was a redlight camera there she would have a ticket if she blew it, or a regular camera would screw the other driver as well. So when she doesn't get one she has the ticket waived.

Glad your mom is ok though! That is the most important thing.

The thing is, the after the accident, the man came out of his car and admitted that it was his fault. 3 woman came by pulled the guy over and started speaking to him. That is when his story changed.


I would just like to thank all of you for your support. It really does mean a lot.

[purespin52]

Originally Posted by 888

Seriously I am sorry and think these guys are assholes if what you are saying is true. But why must it be a racist thing. I am sure that the friends would back up the other driver no matter what the sex or race???

I hate it when people pull the racism card whenever things don't go their way.

Your mom is lucky she can drive in this country.

what does that even mean????????????????
why is she lucky she can drive in this country???????????

[888]

Originally Posted by -=Hot|Ice=-

You obviously have no knowledge of Iran. Woman have been driving there for years now. Get your facts straight, then come back to me and tell me I pulled the racism card.

I'm sure if my mom wasn't wearing her scarf, it would of gone down the same way.

I can't even say that without laughing.

I hate it when people don't know what they're talking about.

who cares about what woman can and can't do in Iran, I was not specifically talking about Iran (which I am sure is a lovely place).

I can't wait until 2023 when us whites are going to be a minority in this country, then we will also be able to play the discrimination card.

[-=Hot|Ice=-]

Originally Posted by 888

who cares about what woman can and can't do in Iran, I was not specifically talking about Iran (which I am sure is a lovely place).

I can't wait until 2023 when us whites are going to be a minority in this country, then we will also be able to play the discrimination card.

Bet you can't wait.

Thank you everyone.

[SoYank]

Could you explain the accident a bit better? Which side was hit? Was the other vehicle turning left across your mom's lane or making a right turn onto your mom's lane?

The fact that he struck the side of your mom's car would indicate that he failed to yield the right of way. To counter any claim he might make stating "he had the right of way" check the Maryland vehicle code. Chances are the law does not state who has the right of way but, instead, who must yield the right of way. There is a big difference.

When the case goes to court, merely bring the guys friends onto the stand and ask their relationship with him. When he states that they are friends, move to have them disqualified as witnesses. It now becomes a he-said, she-said issue. Contest the ticket. Unless there is proof that your mom is at fault the ticket can not stand. The ticket was issued based on the testimony given the LEO by the witnesses. If they have been disqualified as witnesses the ticket has no merit.

Maryland is also a no-fault state. You can be held at fault for merely being involved no matter what the traffic control devices show.

[shift330]

You can get the guy's address off the police report. What you do from there......don't tell anyone

[-=Hot|Ice=-]

Originally Posted by SoYank

Could you explain the accident a bit better? Which side was hit? Was the other vehicle turning left across your mom's lane or making a right turn onto your mom's lane?

The fact that he struck the side of your mom's car would indicate that he failed to yield the right of way. To counter any claim he might make stating "he had the right of way" check the Maryland vehicle code. Chances are the law does not state who has the right of way but, instead, who must yield the right of way. There is a big difference.

When the case goes to court, merely bring the guys friends onto the stand and ask their relationship with him. When he states that they are friends, move to have them disqualified as witnesses. It now becomes a he-said, she-said issue. Contest the ticket. Unless there is proof that your mom is at fault the ticket can not stand. The ticket was issued based on the testimony given the LEO by the witnesses. If they have been disqualified as witnesses the ticket has no merit.

Maryland is also a no-fault state. You can be held at fault for merely being involved no matter what the traffic control devices show.

I would certainly be happy to.

My mom was crossing a 2 lane road when she came up on a intersection. As my mom was traveling(in a straight line) This old man comes from the side and does not yield(He had a red light). His left side tire smashes into my moms left side. She skid into the grass and almost ran into a power line. We spoke with our insurance company and they are saying that the car has both suspension and frame damage. It may be totaled. They said the would look into more on Monday. We are certainly taking it to court. The fact is, the old man admitted earlier that it was his fault. His "friends" called him over and that is when his story changed. They started stating that my mom ran a red light. Both my mom and the old man claim that at least 3 other cars passed them after the accident happened. That is until he spoke with his "friends." My mom said that the people that spoke with the old man came out of nowhere. There was no one at the intersection other then the cars that were behind my mom coming to pass the light. No pedestrians were present. I will draw it out on paint for you. I think this may help clarify any confusion.

P.S. The officer said that because the old man has a people to back-him up. She had to cite my mom for passing a red light.

All of this has a good though. We're waiting for the next generation 5 series to come out. My dad feels that my mom would be much safer in one then a cheap Camry that rattles like no tomorrow.

[lauer87]

How do you know your mom didn't run the red light?

How do you know that these witnesses are in fact friends of the other driver?

[mpimping]

you are in maryland move or call the feds...

[mpimping]

who do you call if the police put something false on the report because they know the other driver or because of racism of incompetence? the fbi?

[dsc201knoc]

sorry to hear that.... people are f-ed up.... Its sad that people can act like that..

[johnnymu]

Originally Posted by -=Hot|Ice=-

I would certainly be happy to.

My mom was crossing a 2 lane road when she came up on a intersection. As my mom was traveling(in a straight line) This old man comes from the side and does not yield(He had a red light). His left side tire smashes into my moms left side. She skid into the grass and almost ran into a power line. We spoke with our insurance company and they are saying that the car has both suspension and frame damage. It may be totaled. They said the would look into more on Monday. We are certainly taking it to court. The fact is, the old man admitted earlier that it was his fault. His "friends" called him over and that is when his story changed. They started stating that my mom ran a red light. Both my mom and the old man claim that at least 3 other cars passed them after the accident happened. That is until he spoke with his "friends." My mom said that the people that spoke with the old man came out of nowhere. There was no one at the intersection other then the cars that were behind my mom coming to pass the light. No pedestrians were present. I will draw it out on paint for you. I think this may help clarify any confusion.

P.S. The officer said that because the old man has a people to back-him up. She had to cite my mom for passing a red light.

All of this has a good though. We're waiting for the next generation 5 series to come out. My dad feels that my mom would be much safer in one then a cheap Camry that rattles like no tomorrow.

Maybe my comprehension sucks but this is what it sounds like
two lanes, i'm assuming you are saying both sides are two lanes and both drivers heading opposite direction. The old man is at the intersection awaiting turn signal to turn your mom has green light and continues her path with no cars on her right but cars behind her? somehow the old man turns on red and collides his left side into your mother left side thus causing the car to slide into the grass. Now what I don't understand is why doesn't the people behind your mother come out and assist? I assume they had to brake in order not to collide in the incident? this story doesn't sound right to me.

[ChronoJ1]

I don't understand why you are asking for an advice here. Go see a lawyer now!

[888]

Originally Posted by ChronoJ1

I don't understand why you are asking for an advice here. Go see a lawyer now!

HotIce is not asking for advice he is telling us how his family is being “discriminated” against because of how his mom dresses.

If they don’t have any traffic camera or forensic evidence no lawyer in the world will be able to help.

If I was a judge going on HotIce’s version of events it is quite clear that his mom is not very aware of her surroundings and probably is at fault.

As per HotIce:

“Two of the guys friends saw the accident happen. They quickly go over to the guy and tell him that they will tell the cops that it was my moms fault and he shouldn't worry about it.”

“My mom said that the people that spoke with the old man came out of nowhere. There was no one at the intersection”

HotIce must assume that it is possible that his mom may be at fault. I have a friend who once went through a red light he also swore that it was green and only forensic evidence proved he was mistaken. It can happen??

[SE3P_to_E90]

Does she recall EXACTLY what time it occurred? Traffic lights are preprogrammed, so if she recalls the exact moment, you might be able to use that to your advantage and get the other douchebags for presenting misleading/fraudulent information. Man, I'm in Baltimore right now, and I have to say, this has got to be one of the shittiest, dirtiest, crappiest, did i say shittiest? places in the US. Baltimore blows.

Well, that's what you get in the heroin (or crack cocaine) capital of the nation...

[blue2fire]

I hope this gets settled fairly mate. There is no place for racism in society.