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03-10-2011, 11:03 AM | #2 |
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Fat and happy is how I'd describe them. They seem to be spewing a lot of marketing smoke right now, but you don't see any real innovations in the showrooms, just more tweaks. Let's face it, they live or die by the 3 series which is aging. Their gold standard, the M3, is being matched or surpassed by a lot of recent offerings from others car companies. Forget the i-crap and marketeering. The next 3 series needs to be another home run, because right now their resting on their laurels, but you can't do that for too long these days because the US and Korean manufacters are going to take their improved game into the luruxy performance market with a vengence.
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03-10-2011, 04:07 PM | #3 |
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Think BMW as the new Toyota. They have outgrown their niche market and hunger for more growth. To capture more sales they have to attack the masses and what does masses want? Performance is not on top of list, good enough is good enough, what matters more is perception of driving a luxury brand and having a better product than everyone else. There's your reason for revival of BMW marketing engine. When there's a marketing guy heading a M division you know you are in trouble.
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03-11-2011, 03:46 PM | #4 |
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BMW is small potatos compared to the big boys and they would be insane to think they have the means to compete in the high volume/low margin side of the business. Remember, their top asset is their brand and that's about luxury, not economy. Where BMW is expanding agressively is in the developing world. They want to capitalize on their brand reputation among the up and coming achievers in countries like China, India, Brazil, etc. The i-car stuff are just more niches that they want to fill.
The big issue for anyone on this board is whether BMW's interest in those emerging markets will change its interest in performance. If the BMW marketeers decide that Mumbai software developers don't want high performance cars because they have no autobahns to drive on, do they shift their limited development resources into other features?
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03-11-2011, 05:47 PM | #6 |
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I think the recent change in 3-series pricing is further proof of this. As a 6MT driver, I am legitimately pissed. If they weren't producing such a fantastic product, that alone would been enough to steer me into the waiting arms of the competition. Shun your driving-enthusiast customer base at your own risk, BMW.
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BMW is definitely diluting their brand in many ways.
Going from having great steering feel to almost none at all, making cars bigger and heavier, slapping M badge on everything and launching a million new models at once. |
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03-13-2011, 06:42 PM | #8 |
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"Something has gone horribly wrong at BMW. "
+1 completely agree. They are deserting their core market of "Ultimate Driving Machine" buyers in favor of catering to aging boomers with luxo-barge sedans and psuedo-"M" SUVs with large profit margins. It's profoundly dissapointing - like seeing Mozart choosing to write only TV jingles. Where is the next light, focused sportscar in the tradition of the 2002 or M3 CSL? Why discontinue the superb S54 motor or the v8 in the M3? Where are the model options to order performance differentials, suspension and manual transmissions? Porsche and Lotus, despite [dubiously] widening their product lines, have kept at least one eye on building proper affordable sports cars like the Cayman R, boxster spyder, and next-gen Elise. What's BMW going to put on the table.....the psuedo-1M ? The overweight, wobbly E89? I dont' need a diff with eleven different settings, or massage seats. I want a light, powerful, agile and refined car under $50K. The Japanese can do it. The Brits can do it. Surely the Germans can too. I understand the need to produce 'commodity' high-volume models to fund the company. But BMW is shiny-side down if they consider the next-gen high-performance driving machines to be 'niche cars' rather than the whole reason people know the intials BMW. If they continue on their present course of abandoning the sports-car market, the customer base will migrate swiftly to the competition, and the 'ultimate driving machine' of 2013, 14, 15, 16 will wear the Porsche shield. Last edited by blender; 03-13-2011 at 07:08 PM.. |
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As the saying goes, everyone has a price. BMW looks at the recent sales and how many BMWs are being sold and they thing they are doing a great job. Problem is that they are conforming too much to regular every day drivers instead of giving the ultimate driving machine which got them here in the first place!!
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excellent read and viewpoint
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This is the unfortunate reality of expanding a successful business. Porsche gets away with cars like the cayman R and GT3 RS because they have HUGE profit margins in their vehicles. In an effort to increase total sales BMW is eliminating those types of models with their trademark german efficiency. And the "M" division is turning into a giant marketing machine meant to ask premium dollars for models that already make no sense in standard form (vis a vie; the X6 and 1 series coupe ).
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I think the finest overall car BMW has made over the years is the basic 3 series sedan with a naturally aspirated I6 engine. Everyone loves them. They drive great. They do everything. They handle well, they're comfortable, they carry a lot of stuff. Hopefully BMW will continue to keep that tradition alive, even if the next gen 3 series will only have a turbo 4.
BMW Motorrad is also building awesome bikes. M division, however, appears to have completely folded under to marketing.
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