[mkoesel]

Originally Posted by ynguldyn

There are some hints that B48 may get a version with 400cc per cylinder displacement. This makes as little sense to me as to y'all, considering all the noise about 500cc being the perfect size and the single parts bin for all B engines, but still there it is.

Plus, besides the points about the cylinder size and parts sharing, what real value does a 1.6L I4 have in the lineup when they have the 1.5L I3? They've finally completed the transition away from the 1.6L N13 to the 1.5L B38, and now they want to bring in a replacement? It doesn't make sense. I'd be very surprised if this happens.

The bigger question is where is the compact 4L 91mm bore-center V8 to compete with VAG and Mercedes? Are they going to offer one or just hold onto the current 98mm bore V8 until V8s themselves are phased out in a decade or two?

[mkoesel]

Originally Posted by aajami

M2 engine doesn't feel so special...

They didn't have a suitable I4 ready, and they don't need special effort to make the necessary power from an I6. Next generation we should be looking at an S48. Of course, then we'll have the AWD transverse layout too, unless hell freezes over.

[aajami]

Originally Posted by mkoesel

They didn't have a suitable I4 ready, and they don't need special effort to make the necessary power from an I6. Next generation we should be looking at an S48. Of course, then we'll have the AWD transverse layout too, unless hell freezes over.

Can't wait for my transverse 4-cylinder AWD M2!

Oh wait, I can...

[ADRQ0811]

Originally Posted by Alan l.

I think you are right but going by the original post it looks like the F15 is extended out one extra year before the LCI comes out. Better for me if true that means i can enjoy my 2015 for alittle longer before its semi out of date lol

Alan

F15 lci will be due out 2017 as a my 2018

[ORIGIN M.]

Originally Posted by mkoesel

They didn't have a suitable I4 ready, and they don't need special effort to make the necessary power from an I6. Next generation we should be looking at an S48. Of course, then we'll have the AWD transverse layout too, unless hell freezes over.

It will be the end of next year, before they decide to freeze over Hell or not.

[mkoesel]

Originally Posted by red-sauerkraut

It will be the end of next year, before they decide to freeze over Hell or not.

That's one way to look at it perhaps. Optimism is commendable.

However, I think that while there may be a few desperate soles somewhere trying to freeze hell over by the end of the year, it probably isn't worth getting your hopes up too high that they will succeed.

TT RS, Evo, CLA45, Golf R - these are some great cars. All of them are transverse turbocharged I4 (or I5, maybe, one more time) with AWD. At some point there aren't enough people willing to pay for the lower margin RWD car in this class to justify the cost anymore.

[donnieteng]

Originally Posted by ynguldyn

July'16 for M140i and March'15 for 118i.

Hi Gentlemen,

Currently I own an E60 525i and it is really an iconic BMW 5 series with modern exterior design, good handling and comfortability. To further own an M car is always one of my dream.

In Taiwan, a brand new M3 cost nearly USD160k (yeah this is true) thus I turn to M135i LCI (USD80k). But after browsing the website, I found the expert here talking about there would be M140i in 2H16 and which makes me wonder if I should buy M135i LCI with N55 or M140i with B58? Anyone can give me some advices? Since I have kid already, I would not consider coupe car such as M2. Thank you.

[swagon]

Anythun about the X7?

[ronin16]

Any word regarding the 340i being offered in the F31 sports wagon in 2016 or 2017 in the USA?

- Paul

[CSBM5]

Originally Posted by ronin16

Any word regarding the 340i being offered in the F31 sports wagon in 2016 or 2017 in the USA?

- Paul

The last word about the F31 in the USA by SCOTT26 was that not only will we not be getting the 340i version of it, but the F31 in *any* form will no longer be imported here.

[SCOTT26]

Originally Posted by CSBM5

The last word about the F31 in the USA by SCOTT26 was that not only will we not be getting the 340i version of it, but the F31 in *any* form will no longer be imported here.

G21 I said. The next generation.

[BimmerMat135]

Originally Posted by SCOTT26

G21 I said. The next generation.

When you say no G21 in USA does that include canadian market as well?

[BimmerMat135]

@ynguldyn Are you getting some power figures for the 30i B48?

[ynguldyn]

Originally Posted by BimmerMat135

@ynguldyn Are you getting some power figures for the 30i B48?

This is public info on any BMW site in Europe.

[ynguldyn]

US 440i's will start as MY2016 and not early intro MY2017.

[BimmerMat135]

Originally Posted by ynguldyn

This is public info on any BMW site in Europe.

I didn't do a proper search prior to post. Anyway a 5kw gain is an underacheivement IMO. I am really impressed by B47's and B57's power figures. Any rumors about the F30-31 getting these engines in North America?

[ynguldyn]

Originally Posted by BimmerMat135

I didn't do a proper search prior to post. Anyway a 5kw gain is an underacheivement IMO. I am really impressed by B47's and B57's power figures. Any rumors about the F30-31 getting these engines in North America?

At the moment, it appears that the current diesel is here to stay till the end of the model run.

From what I'm hearing, the main advantage of B48 vs N2x is more refined behavior.

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by ynguldyn

F87 SOP 11/15:
- BMW M2, N55B30T0, manual and auto

SOP still valid ? Rumor has it that SOP has been postponed to early 2016.

[ynguldyn]

Originally Posted by Artemis

SOP still valid ? Rumor has it that SOP has been postponed to early 2016.

SOP data was open to me for a relatively short period of time. I can't see it since last fall.

[gearboxtrouble]

Originally Posted by mkoesel

They didn't have a suitable I4 ready, and they don't need special effort to make the necessary power from an I6. Next generation we should be looking at an S48. Of course, then we'll have the AWD transverse layout too, unless hell freezes over.

They should have a high performance 2.0 I4 Turbo in late stage development for the new DTM regs in 2016. A detuned S version of that would have made a much more interesting choice than the N55 in the M2.

[ynguldyn]

M140i/M240i will add ~15hp compared to the B58 output in non-M-performance cars, similar to what M135i offered above regular x35i models.

Expect Wifi hotspots to become an option in MY2017 1/2/3/4 series cars.

[swagon]

Thanks for all the info.