[Artemis]

Race Gods: "Incident is noted."


(source: https://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/67461305)

[GuidoK]

Originally Posted by g21

we (you) musn't say such things remember! Max will win. i have no doubt.

LOL I totally forgot

Now I've jinxed it

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by GuidoK

LOL I totally forgot

Now I've jinxed it

Wolff interesting => https://www.f1maximaal.nl/formule-1/...0Ferrari%20aan.

[Killed by Death]

Originally Posted by F32Fleet

Surely you jest.

No I don't jest. Private Security "Raiding" my occupied room = BIG PROBLEM

[GuidoK]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Wolff interesting => https://www.f1maximaal.nl/formule-1/...0Ferrari%20aan.

The comments on a Max fansite can be so funny
There is just no filter

[Artemis]

On what happened at Las Vegas (especially about fans being kicked out), Verstappen spoke his mind, unfiltered, instead of scripted marketing rambling.

As Flemish/Dutch is my native tongue, here's my translation of what Verstappen really said to Dutch press:

"Well, Monaco is Champions League. This is National League."
("Nou, Monaco is Champions League. Dit is Eredivisie.")

"Well, I could keep talking about this for a while. As a small kid, I fell in love with the sport because of the emotion. Not because of the show - for a racer that doesn't matter. On the street a race car doesn't really come alive, you need a circuit for that."
("Tja, ik kan er wel een tijdje over door blijven praten. Als klein ventje werd ik verliefd op de sport vanwege de emotie. Niet vanwege de show, voor een racer doet dat er niet toe. Op straat komt een race-auto niet echt tot leven, daar heb je een circuit voor nodig.")

"Monza, Spa, emotion, passion. Of course I do understand that fans need to have something to do too, but parties - you can throw these anywhere. Then you can also go to Ibiza and get totally shitfaced. Formula 1 should do a lot more work to ensure that people learn to understand the sport, know what they are coming to do. Instead of all these shows all over the world."
("Monza, Spa, emotie, passie. Natuurlijk snap ik wel dat fans ook wat te doen moeten hebben, maar feestjes, die kun je overal houden. Dan kun je ook naar Ibiza gaan en totaal shitfaced worden. Formule 1 zou er veel meer werk van moeten maken dat de mensen de sport leren begrijpen, weten wat ze komen doen. In plaats van al die shows over heel de wereld.")

"First the fans had to wait for a very long time, subsequently they were thrown out just before we started training again. If I were a fan, I would tear down that whole tent. Right? This can't happen, no? You know, now, of course, everything is still very popular. You can do and not do whatever you want, people will come anyway. But in 10 or 15 years' time we will see more. Of course the world is changing, but why do you always have to change with it? Maybe you can also keep doing your own thing and handle it in a different way."
("Moesten de fans eerst heel lang wachten, werden ze eruit gegooid vlak voordat wij weer gingen trainen. Als ik een fan was, zou ik die hele tent afbreken. Ja toch, dat kan toch niet? Weet je, nu is alles natuurlijk nog heel populair. Je kan doen en laten wat je wil, mensen komen toch wel. Maar over tien of vijftien jaar dan gaan we meer zien. Natuurlijk verandert de wereld, maar waarom moet je dan altijd mee veranderen? Misschien kan je ook je eigen ding blijven doen en het op een andere manier aanpakken.")

About Verstappen's quote "If I were a fan, I would tear down that whole tent." ("Als ik een fan was, zou ik die hele tent afbreken."): that's a generally known Dutch expression, figuratively expressing that you would be furious - it's no reference to using physical violence. Compare in a different context with "the audience raised the roof" when you simply refer to the audience ecstatically going wild, instead of physically destroying the roof.


(source: https://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/67461305)

[F32Fleet]

Originally Posted by Artemis

Attachment 3324755

Logan won't know what to do with only a couple of cars ahead of him. LOL.

[F32Fleet]

Originally Posted by Killed by Death

No I don't jest. Private Security "Raiding" my occupied room = BIG PROBLEM

You're on private property and your decision to stay there means you abide by their rules which is no firearms. IJS. Casinos take their rules very seriously and have given lifetime bans to customers who do not adhere to them.

[F32Fleet]

Originally Posted by Artemis

On what happened at Las Vegas (especially about fans being kicked out), Verstappen spoke his mind, unfiltered, instead of scripted marketing rambling.

As Flemish/Dutch is my native tongue, here's my translation of what Verstappen really said to Dutch press:

"Well, Monaco is Champions League. This is National League."
("Nou, Monaco is Champions League. Dit is Eredivisie.")

"Well, I could keep talking about this for a while. As a small kid, I fell in love with the sport because of the emotion. Not because of the show - for a racer that doesn't matter. On the street a race car doesn't really come alive, you need a circuit for that."
("Tja, ik kan er wel een tijdje over door blijven praten. Als klein ventje werd ik verliefd op de sport vanwege de emotie. Niet vanwege de show, voor een racer doet dat er niet toe. Op straat komt een race-auto niet echt tot leven, daar heb je een circuit voor nodig.")

"Monza, Spa, emotion, passion. Of course I do understand that fans need to have something to do too, but parties - you can throw these anywhere. Then you can also go to Ibiza and get totally shitfaced. Formula 1 should do a lot more work to ensure that people learn to understand the sport, know what they are coming to do. Instead of all these shows all over the world."
("Monza, Spa, emotie, passie. Natuurlijk snap ik wel dat fans ook wat te doen moeten hebben, maar feestjes, die kun je overal houden. Dan kun je ook naar Ibiza gaan en totaal shitfaced worden. Formule 1 zou er veel meer werk van moeten maken dat de mensen de sport [...]

Max doesn't fully appreciate that without fans there's no racing and no $55M/yr contracts

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by Bubbles

according to some reports, after qualy hotel rooms were raided by hotel security to search for firearms.

Two driver rooms were raided (Max?).

A sleep depraved paddock is part of "the show" !Come to Las Vegas and enjoy the only-best-exclusive presentation of "Racing Zombies After Dark"™

Could be security and police are on high alert bc of the Stephen Paddock incident 6 years ago where he shot and killed 58 Country music fans and injured many more at a concert from his LV hotel window.

[Artemis]

Race is scheduled to start at 10pm local time: 11°C expected.



23h35 = 2:35pm local time. Normally no rain during the race (rain may arrive hours after the race).

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by F32Fleet

Max doesn't fully appreciate that without fans there's no racing and no $55M/yr contracts

No doubt that he's fully aware of that. No money, no honey.

F1 is already a circus. He dislikes it being californicated into some Barnum & Bailey Circus.

[Artemis]

The race: 50 laps (6.2 km track)

[3798j]

"Formula One fans have filed a class-action lawsuit against Las Vegas Grand Prix after being kicked out of practice."
"Clearly that [$200 merchandise voucher] is not a refund that is sufficient. A lot of fans probably don't even want that, they want their money back," Steve Dimopoulos of Dimopoulos Law Firm told Reuters. "There are also peripheral issues of what about the people that came in from out of town and paid for substantial air fare and hotels."

https://www.cbssports.com/motor-spor...t-of-practice/

[F32Fleet]

Originally Posted by 3798j

"Formula One fans have filed a class-action lawsuit against Las Vegas Grand Prix after being kicked out of practice."
"Clearly that [$200 merchandise voucher] is not a refund that is sufficient. A lot of fans probably don't even want that, they want their money back," Steve Dimopoulos of Dimopoulos Law Firm told Reuters. "There are also peripheral issues of what about the people that came in from out of town and paid for substantial air fare and hotels."

https://www.cbssports.com/motor-spor...t-of-practice/

It's Nevada. Plenty of starving attorneys looking to sue.

[Car-Addicted]

Originally Posted by Killed by Death

No I don't jest. Private Security "Raiding" my occupied room = BIG PROBLEM

Maybe Las Vegas has their view about firearm rules based on past experience. I have a concealed carry permit and I compete in USPSA competition so my support of 2nd amendment is unshakable but when I go onto some one else's property it's their rules I have to follow.

[Car-Addicted]

Formula 1 Las Vegas ticket prices continue to plunge a day before the Grand Prix
New York CNN —
Ticket prices continue to decline sharply for Formula 1 Grand Prix in Las Vegas, even as the highly anticipated event is set to rev its engines in just one day.
Since last week, prices have dropped 23% for Saturday night’s main event, falling below $1,000, with the current “get-in” price for tickets hovering around $800, according to TickPick. That’s down 50% since a month ago when the cheapest ticket sold for $1,645.
Prices for the practice and qualifying sessions, on Thursday and Friday respectively, are crashing too. The cheapest tickets for both days dropped as much as 20% in a week and are down 70% from last month.
Thursday’s practice tickets were sold for $919 last year but have sunk to $119 this year, TickPick said, an 87% decrease. Friday tickets for qualifying races are selling for $259, a 76% drop from last year’s price of $1,085.

https://us.cnn.com/2023/11/15/busine...ces/index.html

[Car-Addicted]

Originally Posted by 3798j

"Formula One fans have filed a class-action lawsuit against Las Vegas Grand Prix after being kicked out of practice."
"Clearly that [$200 merchandise voucher] is not a refund that is sufficient.

As a result, FP2 finally got underway at 2:30 a.m. local time, and fans were forced to leave at 1:30 a.m. as the race organizers closed the fan areas due to local labor laws meaning security staff could not work beyond that time.
https://racer.com/2023/11/18/las-veg...tice-maladies/

Vegas is a union town. I spent many years doing trade shows in Vegas and the Unions Rule. We couldn't even plug in lights with out a fine. There were as many union thugs roaming the trade center as they were electricians.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

Could be security and police are on high alert bc of the Stephen Paddock incident 6 years ago where he shot and killed 58 Country music fans and injured many more at a concert from his LV hotel window.

Looks very busy at the Vegas startgrid !

[GuidoK]

morning peeps....
Any funny moments happened on Brundle's gridwalk?
I missed the beginning....

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by GuidoK

morning peeps....
Any funny moments happened on Brundle's gridwalk?
I missed the beginning....

FORMATION LAP !!!

[///M Power-Belgium]

Issues to start LEW's car ....