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http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/faq/index-eng.htm#a3
This link is overall useful to understand firearm regulations up here. I just wish I could carry a .357 or similar if I go walking in the forest for defense against animals if needed. Something easily accessed and not worrisome to anyone else I meet (like if I walked on through with a shotgun). But I can only carry a shotgun on my own property and on Crown land or land where I have permission to hunt by the owner. |
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You can use as much force is reasonable to defend yourself in Canada and if that means a firearm you can. There is lots of case law regarding instances of people using firearms to defend themselves, in fact there are very few cases of people being convicted when defending themselves.
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08-15-2019, 03:17 PM | #3501 | |
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But still, for it to be reasonable, at least in my mind, the person would have to barge in with a firearm as well. |
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08-15-2019, 03:18 PM | #3502 | |
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Of course, I suppose still at risk on the "reasonable" definition. If its dark and you can't verify weapon or not, maybe you are not in good shape if they live through it. Still though, if it ever came to it, I'd be looking to get my family out asap and safe. My firearms are useless to me, being stored in a safe in the basement and all. No way I'd have time to get down there, unlock, load and get back up there, in addition to being under pressure and probably fumbling things. But thanks for the post! |
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08-15-2019, 03:20 PM | #3503 |
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wait, how the hell is that legal in canadia and not NYS? (short stock, 30 round mag)
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08-15-2019, 03:31 PM | #3504 | |
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I didn't know NY state laws were bad. That's why the gun selection os like hunting rifles at walmart when I visit haha. |
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For example, a person who is bigger stronger and clearly capable of overpowering you (they don't have to have a weapon) and whom you feel is likely to do you serious bodily harm or kill you then you'd be justified in using any weapon to defend yourself. What's a weapon? Anything that you use as one. The problem with using a restricted weapon to defend yourself is overcoming the ability to get if out fo safe storage quickly enough to use it against an imminent threat. The police will have lots of questions. There was a case in Ontario a few years ago where a guy on a farm was having ongoing problems with a group of local assholes, who showed up on his property one night and were throwing petrol bombs at his house. He got his revolver out of his safe and fired a number of shots at them. It was alleged that he was able to get the gun out of the safe and loaded too fast for it to have been stored properly. He was charged with a number of firearms offences, but ultimately acquitted. He was able to explain how he did it and he also had set up security cameras on his property. Last edited by Grumpy Old Man; 08-15-2019 at 05:51 PM.. |
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The problem with a firearm for home defence in Canada is that unless you are near your safe or guns what are the chances that you can use it to defend yourself. I'd suggest that you should always have something with you that could theoretically be used as a weapon. For example, I always carry a knife as does my wife, it's a tool that I use for various day to day things but I guess if I really needed it then it could be a weapon to, but that's not the reason I carry it. |
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They come like that, you usually get a 10 round mag that has a stopper or screw or pin in it to limit the capacity to 5 rounds. I remember getting a pump shotgun years ago that had a piece of dowelling in the magazine to limit it to 3 rounds for bird hunting rules.....in theory you could easily remove it in seconds.
Personally I wouldn't buy a restricted rifle as you need to transport it to an authorized range in a locked case and that's the only place you can shoot it. I'd buy a non-restricted variant (18" barrel) which you can throw in the trunk of your car or backseat and you can use it on your property, crown land or any other property you have permission to use it. |
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What the hell is "crown land?" Is that what we Americans call "public land," with a big dose of oppressive government layered on?
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