[BMW F22]

You guys brought up very good points, which I agree with. The thing that irks me is that not only are people looting in Ferguson, people are looting in cities throughout the country. I mean, why?? It has nothing to do with most of them besides the skin color. It's sad to see how we have come so far just to go back to where we were. It is as if those people have grudges against certain things and just needed a reason, any reason, to riot.

[Taskmaster]

Originally Posted by davis449

Just can't agree more with this. The worst part, by far, is that you can't even confront these "protesters", apologists, and sympathizers with facts. They just run right over anyone who does with the word "injustice" or put up a pathetic excuse of a straw man argument in refute...or both. Pathetic.

No one is saying that at all.

[Templar]

You know where I see this thread going???

[Never Convicted]

It's against their own interests. They burned down the Auto Zone store. Now where are they going to get their 26" spinners and whitewalls?

[ASAP]

Originally Posted by Billup

For one, it's education. Look at these areas that are heavily populated by blacks. Majority of these people are uneducated and really don't have any morals. Figure a lot of them complain about slavery in the past, but everyone builds their own future whether they want to accept it or not, and poverty stricken areas choose not to.

Look at the Jewish community. Very well educated and have morals that date back for centuries. This isn't a racist comment, but look back on black history and where their actual roots come from, Africa, an uneducated and poverty stricken country where a lot of these tribes have their own means of what is right and how the world works.

There is always going to be some heat with the white verse black communities, I personally don't understand it because I have more black friends than I do white friends. It really is sad to see how these areas represent their own people, and yet they wonder many other races see them as inferior or ignorant. Shit like that is just unacceptable, and it sucks that it can have that kind of affect on places nowhere near the damage zone.

Watch out... Bill Cosby kept it too real for a bit too long and they finally got to him.

[Taskmaster]

Originally Posted by Never Convicted

It's against their own interests. They burned down the Auto Zone store. Now where are they going to get their 26" spinners and whitewalls?

[P1]

If you look at the protesters (the real protestors, not the looters), they are upset with how blacks are handled by the police. They say there's police "brutality" against blacks, and that's what they're tired of.

I've lived in this country as an immigrant for a long time, and have NEVER EVER been a victim of police brutality. I've been pulled over by cops of all flavors and have always been polite. I'm on Liveleak every day and when I see a police "brutality" video, it's always because the suspect is acting out of line. If you'd just fucking behave around police, I firmly believe they'd treat you with respect. Whenever a cop's been a dick to me, I deserved it and I apologized.

[kevinbahnz]

Originally Posted by P1et

If you look at the protesters (the real protestors, not the looters), they are upset with how blacks are handled by the police. They say there's police "brutality" against blacks, and that's what they're tired of.

I've lived in this country as an immigrant for a long time, and have NEVER EVER been a victim of police brutality. I've been pulled over by cops of all flavors and have always been polite. I'm on Liveleak every day and when I see a police "brutality" video, it's always because the suspect is acting out of line. If you'd just fucking behave around police, I firmly believe they'd treat you with respect. Whenever a cop's been a dick to me, I deserved it and I apologized.

I agree I get pulled over too and comply and be on my way, But what if you were pulled over 3-4 times a week for no reason except the color of your skin.

[KingOfJericho]

From NYPost:

Michael Brown’s mother on Wednesday lashed out at the cop who shot and killed her unarmed son for claiming to have a “clear conscience” about the deadly altercation.
“His conscience is clear?” grieving mom Lesley McSpadden told “CBS This Morning.” “How could your conscience be clear after killing somebody even it was an accidental death?”
Ferguson, Mo., police officer Darren Wilson told ABC on Tuesday that he didn’t do anything wrong and insisted Brown was the aggressor on Aug. 9.
“I don’t believe a word of it,” McSpadden said of Wilson’s interview. “I know my son far too well. He would never do anything like that. He would never provoke anyone to do anything to him and he would never do anything to anybody."

...really????

[kevinbahnz]

Originally Posted by KingOfJericho

From NYPost:



...really????

if i was that clerk I would've shot him after he pushed me and walk towards me. I'm 5'5 150#s and I was in fear of my life.

[P1]

Originally Posted by kevinbahnz

I agree I get pulled over too and comply and be on my way, But what if you were pulled over 3-4 times a week for no reason except the color of your skin.

I would either be polite and comply 3-4 times per week, or I would move to another area.

[P1]

Store owner who was robbed by Michael Brown had his store looted...

[Gle8]

People are rioting because they are fed up with the inequality and oppression. You really expect them to act rationally? Of course burning down things is counterproductive, but at this point, what IS productive? Nothing. So there is rage and pent up anger that gets released. Blaming people for their (just) rage is just clouding the real issue.

An unarmed man was shot and killed by a police officer, and that police officer was not held accountable. It happens way too frequently in our society, and it is in fact an outrage.

The posts in this thread try to muddy the waters by citing 'facts' that support their already held (and often racist) views.

There never should have been a grand jury. The prosecutor should have charged and brought the case to trial, just like any other case. And in this case, he sabotaged his own case and basically put on a side show.

It doesn't take 100 days for a grand jury to indict. It takes 100 days for them to figure out how to tell people why they won't, when they should.

Bring it to court and let the justice system work.

[KingOfJericho]

Originally Posted by kevinbahnz

I agree I get pulled over too and comply and be on my way, But what if you were pulled over 3-4 times a week for no reason except the color of your skin.

I'm sorry but that's just not happening. This town is 21,000 people, a little over half of whom are black. There simply isn't enough police manpower for this to be happening to anyone in Ferguson, or anywhere else. Nobody, and I mean nobody, is getting pulled over 150-200 times a year.

[DoctoRx]

As far as OP, that's how the media portrays blacks. All blacks aren't rioting (maybe you missed the media coverage they didn't show of blacks defending stores in Ferguson from being looted). The media plays what they think will get the most views. And FYI - it happens to all races. I lived in San Francisco when the giants won the world series and can assure you, those riots weren't composed entirely of blacks.

Originally Posted by Billup

For one, it's education. Look at these areas that are heavily populated by blacks. Majority of these people are uneducated and really don't have any morals. Figure a lot of them complain about slavery in the past, but everyone builds their own future whether they want to accept it or not, and poverty stricken areas choose not to.

Look at the Jewish community. Very well educated and have morals that date back for centuries. This isn't a racist comment, but look back on black history and where their actual roots come from, Africa, an uneducated and poverty stricken country where a lot of these tribes have their own means of what is right and how the world works.

There is always going to be some heat with the white verse black communities, I personally don't understand it because I have more black friends than I do white friends. It really is sad to see how these areas represent their own people, and yet they wonder many other races see them as inferior or ignorant. Shit like that is just unacceptable, and it sucks that it can have that kind of affect on places nowhere near the damage zone.

Really... I hope you're not being serious about this. First, I'll suggest doing some research on what you consider to be African roots. Secondly, intelligence wasn't the only thing slave owners sought to strip blacks of as a source of control. I suggest you study the teachings of Willie Lynch. Thirdly, having black friends doesn't mean you'll ever understand what it's like to be a black person in America. Please don't try to speculate on a race or culture you've never been a part of.

PS... this was written by an uneducated and immoral guy who's entire family still lives in those evil black populated towns.

[Taskmaster]

Originally Posted by KingOfJericho

I'm sorry but that's just not happening. This town is 21,000 people, a little over half of whom are black. There simply isn't enough police manpower for this to be happening to anyone in Ferguson, or anywhere else. Nobody, and I mean nobody, is getting pulled over 150-200 times a year.

"Stop and frisk"

[DoctoRx]

Originally Posted by P1et

I've been pulled over by cops of all flavors and have always been polite. I'm on Liveleak every day and when I see a police "brutality" video, it's always because the suspect is acting out of line. If you'd just fucking behave around police, I firmly believe they'd treat you with respect. Whenever a cop's been a dick to me, I deserved it and I apologized.

When I moved to Cleveland I was pulled over 13 times over a span of about 9 months. My vehicle was searched on one occasion, two occasions I had a weapon drawn on me. I even managed to get pulled over 3 times on the same street (busted headlight for which I actually had the bulb and receipt in my passenger seat from where I'd just bought it). How out of line was I to reach for my license and registration to get a gun drawn on me?

[kevinbahnz]

Originally Posted by KingOfJericho

I'm sorry but that's just not happening. This town is 21,000 people, a little over half of whom are black. There simply isn't enough police manpower for this to be happening to anyone in Ferguson, or anywhere else. Nobody, and I mean nobody, is getting pulled over 150-200 times a year.

Maybe not that much consistency each week, But it happened in one week for a Latino man I know. He even got hit up twice in one day , one was down the street from his house.

[P1]

Originally Posted by DoctoRx

When I moved to Cleveland I was pulled over 13 times over a span of about 9 months. My vehicle was searched on one occasion, two occasions I had a weapon drawn on me. I even managed to get pulled over 3 times on the same street (busted headlight for which I actually had the bulb and receipt in my passenger seat from where I'd just bought it). How out of line was I to reach for my license and registration to get a gun drawn on me?

I don't think 13 times in 9 months is terrible. They must have had a reason for them to pull a gun on you, right? I've had a gun drawn on me before also, and I'm as white as they come.

[Billup]

Originally Posted by DoctoRx

Really... I hope you're not being serious about this. First, I'll suggest doing some research on what you consider to be African roots. Secondly, intelligence wasn't the only thing slave owners sought to strip blacks of as a source of control. I suggest you study the teachings of Willie Lynch. Thirdly, having black friends doesn't mean you'll ever understand what it's like to be a black person in America. Please don't try to speculate on a race or culture you've never been a part of.

PS... this was written by an uneducated and immoral guy who's entire family still lives in those evil black populated towns.

Partially sarcastic.

I never stated I knew what it is like to be an African in the US. I was replying to his comment about the white vs black stigma, and the fact that I don't understand it. I've taken African studies at uni, so I know a wee bit of black culture. Plus, I watch television shows by Tyler Perry.

This is coming from an uneducated and immoral white guy who grew up in Detroit and lived a homeless life on the street for the better part of a year. Only difference is I didn't blame other people or bitch about it.

Oh yes, those evil terrible awful black populated areas. Heh. All I noted was the lack of proper education and poverty have some pretty drastic affects on the people in these areas, however there are clearly still incredible people that have to reside there as well.

[DoctoRx]

Originally Posted by P1et

I don't think 13 times in 9 months is terrible. They must have had a reason for them to pull a gun on you, right? I've had a gun drawn on me before also, and I'm as white as they come.

I'm not saying the sheer number is entirely terrible, though in my town they won't hesitate to go over the top without question. And the gun was pulled on me for grabbing my license and registration. Out of 13 times, two including said incident were for speeding, about 15 over if you think that rushing from one meeting to another warrants a firearm. I'm sure the bright white lab coat meant I was a meth dealer and not a doctor.

In all fairness to the officer it was a bit late at night and I was driving on the more 'affluent' side of town. I'm from FL so every time I get pulled over (or at least before they found out I had two lawyers and made friends with the former police commissioner) it's automatically assumed my car is stolen or I'm a dealer because I'm pretty young. Once he realized I was lost he put his weapon away and gave me directions.

[KingOfJericho]

My close friend is a cop here and he told me proper protocol for putting the officer at ease if I get pulled over. It's always unnerving to an officer when anyone reaches for something out of sight. Thus, when I get pulled over, I always roll all of my windows down (they're tinted) and put both hands on the wheel. More than 50% of the time when I reach for my wallet, they will put their hand on their weapon, just in case.