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I'm that oddball millennial who wakes up at 7 am on saturdays to hang around with people my dad's age to and stare at little sports cars.
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We are experiencing the most mediocre and uninspired design that BMW ever had! The design not only lacks elegance, but is goofy!!
BMW is very stupid to not realize that the new direction is taking is changing the perception of the brand and the customer niche; many of the customers are educated and not everyone wants obnoxious and condescending "look at me" horrible grills with kitschy lights! |
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Maybe BMW understands that cultures go through fads, the crossover lovers might find there way back to a sedan after they're done after a baby booming era.
BMW brand is synonymous with sports saloons, imagine if Porsche stopped making 911s because Macan sales are booming? Never.. Just increase the price on the niche market vehicles (in BMW terms, M or M performance) while making enough mainstream appeal to get the Karen's of the world on the dealership lot. |
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I don't think a future 3 Series will resemble the 2 GC. The 2's FWD architecture is obvious in the design, which is why it looks so awkward in the front.
There are only 2 ways to gussy up a sedan, which is the Gran Coupe concept with a hatch, or heaven forbid, a wagon. BMW has made unique versions of cars for specific markets, like the long wheelbase 3 Series for China, so I assume they will continue to do that. Finally, Ford stopped sedan production, but their sedans were never iconic like the 3 is. And you can argue that a car like the Focus or Fiesta should have continued their lives in the US. Remember folks, this is all leading up to BMW ditching the Ultimate Driving Machine slogan. Self driving cars, by definition, cannot be the ultimate driving machine.
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Like it or not, the large grilles are a global trend. Enthusiasts have always complained about new design trends. I'll admit I don't like the trend either, but we will all get used to it. Using the "others" as a scapegoat for everything that offends you is just being lazy. |
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Good read thanks OP.
I've had several CS over the years and feel I'm finally over them. They are fantastic for growing families. I'm now heading back the other and only looking at coupes and sedans. The X models have really been a runaway success for BMW. I wonder how much/any of that was partly from the Land Rover purchase. They definitely seemed to own the sporty SAV/SUV segment for some time before competition caught up. I'm surprised that the 2 series Gran Coupe model was deemed necessary really. In my selfish mind I'd like to see:- 1 series hatch (currently own M135i) 2 series RWD coupe 3 series sedan 4 series coupe 5 series sedan 8 series coupe + Gran coupe Mnext Halo X1/3/5/7 Don't see much news for the coupe style SUVs (however obviously I'd be poor at business these sell well and my wife has an X2!!!). I'd also personally drop the 7, doesn't ever seem a big seller or ever close to toppling the S class in luxury. Maybe an uber luxurious 5 model in L guise could fill this. As for mini brand, it's a worry, sales look to have been dreadful in NA last periods. Is it just too small and seems to offer poor value in some markets. Seems popular as ever in the IK but that might not be enough. Decision on full EV next platform or not seems to be holding the revised model back. Well thanks for reading. As ever, it's a good job I'm not on the board of BMW AG I'd be specialising in getting Leipzig to offer individual colour for my Fire Orange M2C.
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Hence, many of BMW's recent designs seem morbidly obese to me.
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Right. I like the M5 in the current guise, but the direction they are going with the G80 M3 made me go the SUV route instead.
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" We take it to mean that we should expect silhouettes such as the F44 2 Series Gran Coupe to be a reference point for future BMW sedans in terms of design and aesthetic form..." ..to each their own, the 2GC design would surprise me to be used as the gold standard for sedans
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You really must be new the to rondel. Get rid of the non-M 3 series? No way. Cars iconic. (And I'm a multiple M owner)
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The M3 is only as affordable as it is because it is a modified 3 series. Your idea would just not be economically viable.
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