[ledphut]

Originally Posted by OneTwo3

Although it’s nice, it costs more than double an M3 compX.
$181,000 for a 3 series is just absurd.

Where are you getting that number from?

Completely loaded it’s about €115,000.

[///M TOWN]

Originally Posted by Roth517

Sad that apparently the M4 will be dead with no coupe replacement mentioned anywhere.

That doesn’t sound right, there’s gotta be something else planned.
Maybe they’ll call it a 5 series coupe to make more ///Money.

[OneTwo3]

Originally Posted by ledphut

Where are you getting that number from?

Completely loaded it’s about €115,000.

I looked it up after watching that review and google told it was $181,000! Maybe I should have looked more into it lol but after I saw that number I was just annoyed

[OneTwo3]

Originally Posted by ///M TOWN

That doesn’t sound right, there’s gotta be something else planned.
Maybe they’ll call it a 5 series coupe to make more ///Money.

The M2, imo, will fill the position of the M4. Especially when they release the XDrive model.
I don’t see why anyone would opt for an M4 when you can get an M2 xDrive that’s a bit lighter, more nimble and is expected to put out 500+ HP.

[Spoolin Montego]

Originally Posted by ledphut

Where are you getting that number from?

Completely loaded it’s about €115,000.

still 15k more than a fully loaded 2025 M3. Who would choose one of these over an M3 lol you get much less aggressive looking bumpers/body

[OneTwo3]

Originally Posted by ledphut

Where are you getting that number from?

Completely loaded it’s about €115,000.

I just realized it pulled the data from an Australian website so it’s $181k Australian dollars lmao. Makes more sense now.

[NickyC]

Originally Posted by OneTwo3

The M2, imo, will fill the position of the M4. Especially when they release the XDrive model.
I don’t see why anyone would opt for an M4 when you can get an M2 xDrive that’s a bit lighter, more nimble and is expected to put out 500+ HP.

And doesn't look awful.

[Seba77W]

Originally Posted by mike@x-ph.com

i hope the grills stay, really like them now.

the M440 grills are ugly bad the M3/M4 are really nice

i get more compliments on this than any other i have ever owned

Ok so I’ll agree the M3/4 grills do look better than the regular 4 series. It’s because they sit in the bumper or inside of the actual grill not plastered on the bumper how the regular 4 series is. However I’ve owned the previous 4 series for 6 years and when the new one came out I hated it. But now it’s definitely grown on me since owning it and it does look way better in person. I think it makes the cars with the smaller grills look more dated honestly. Also what is the most surprising is the amount of attention and compliments the car gets. People tell me they love the grill! I’m like what? And it’s mostly non BMW people.
So if BMW was trying to get more attention with their cars and maybe get people interested in the brand who otherwise would not have been, then they definitely succeeded there. Also the grill in all black or shadow line trim is the best. The cerium gray ones definitely need to go.

[OneTwo3]

Originally Posted by NickyC

And doesn't look awful.

I don’t think either look awful, but I definitely prefer the straight lines of the M2 over the curvier M4. I hope the design language of the next gen M3 follows suit!

[Seba77W]

Originally Posted by ///M TOWN

That’s interesting. I’ve never heard anybody say that, but I’ll take your word for it…

I have an M440 and the grill gets the most compliments as well. I’m usually like yea I know it’s got the ugly big front grill. And people are like yeah! I love that! I’m like huh?

[ledphut]

Originally Posted by Spoolin Montego

still 15k more than a fully loaded 2025 M3. Who would choose one of these over an M3 lol you get much less aggressive looking bumpers/body

I would personally. You get all the of the engine performance (much more torque actually) and none of the harsh ride. Plus it can be had in Touring form, which to me is just sexy as hell. Finally, the old grille is much more appealing in my opinion.

That’s not even mentioning the interior which can be configured with Lavalina leather, the same supplier that Rolls Royce uses for their top of the line spec.

[OneTwo3]

Originally Posted by Seba77W

I have an M440 and the grill gets the most compliments as well. I’m usually like yea I know it’s got the ugly big front grill. And people are like yeah! I love that! I’m like huh?

Keep in mind, most of the day to day compliments you hear about your car come from people who aren’t hardcore car enthusiasts. While we might compare a new BMW to previous generations and have a whole list of expectations on design, most people just see it as a sporty, unique car, with nothing to compare to. Show a picture of an M3 or M4 to someone who’s not into cars, and they’ll probably think it looks amazing! But a car enthusiast? They’ll spot 100 little things to critique!

[mike@x-ph.com]

Originally Posted by Seba77W

Ok so I’ll agree the M3/4 grills do look better than the regular 4 series. It’s because they sit in the bumper or inside of the actual grill not plastered on the bumper how the regular 4 series is. However I’ve owned the previous 4 series for 6 years and when the new one came out I hated it. But now it’s definitely grown on me since owning it and it does look way better in person. I think it makes the cars with the smaller grills look more dated honestly. Also what is the most surprising is the amount of attention and compliments the car gets. People tell me they love the grill! I’m like what? And it’s mostly non BMW people.
So if BMW was trying to get more attention with their cars and maybe get people interested in the brand who otherwise would not have been, then they definitely succeeded there. Also the grill in all black or shadow line trim is the best. The cerium gray ones definitely need to go.

I felt the same way. When the M4 was first released, I wasn’t a big fan of its design. I wasn’t even excited about getting the new G82 since I really loved my F82.

But once I got it and especially after lowering it, adding a carbon front lip, and spacers, the look completely transformed.

Now, I wouldn't want to go back to the old grille style

[Seba77W]

Originally Posted by OneTwo3

Keep in mind, most of the day to day compliments you hear about your car come from people who aren’t hardcore car enthusiasts. While we might compare a new BMW to previous generations and have a whole list of expectations on design, most people just see it as a sporty, unique car, with nothing to compare to. Show a picture of an M3 or M4 to someone who’s not into cars, and they’ll probably think it looks amazing! But a car enthusiast? They’ll spot 100 little things to critique!

Oh yea I understand. But also even a few car guys that I know, not BMW guys but still car enthusiasts actually like it too. Like I said I still don’t love it even tho I own one but it has grown on me. I think it would’ve look better with an 8 series style grill or something along those lines. It will be interesting to see what BMW chooses for the new G84 M3.

[OneTwo3]

Originally Posted by Seba77W

Oh yea I understand. But also even a few car guys that I know, not BMW guys but still car enthusiasts actually like it too. Like I said I still don’t love it even tho I own one but it has grown on me. I think it would’ve look better with an 8 series style grill or something along those lines. It will be interesting to see what BMW chooses for the new G84 M3.

I agree with you! It’s grown on me as well and I love the front end look of the M3/4. Especially with the LCI snake eyes! It’s crazy how differently I feel about the grill now vs when I first say it in 2020.

[G MONEY]

Originally Posted by mike@x-ph.com

i hope the grills stay, really like them now.

the M440 grills are ugly bad the M3/M4 are really nice

i get more compliments on this than any other i have ever owned

Time to up your car game then Just kidding. 😘

[spuntyb]

[Jim B]

Originally Posted by Roth517

Sad that apparently the M4 will be dead with no coupe replacement mentioned anywhere.

This might make mine more valuable.

[Germanauto]

Originally Posted by OneTwo3

The M2, imo, will fill the position of the M4. Especially when they release the XDrive model.
I don’t see why anyone would opt for an M4 when you can get an M2 xDrive that’s a bit lighter, more nimble and is expected to put out 500+ HP.

Because there's a lot of folks who are brand conscious. There's people who I've told I want an M2 and they look at me like I'm some pleb. Their response: "why not an M5 or M8 bro?"

Obv most M4 buyers are not like this, but there are certainly people who think the lesser the number next to the M badge, the less prestigious.

[edwinm3]

Originally Posted by OneTwo3

The M2, imo, will fill the position of the M4. Especially when they release the XDrive model.
I don’t see why anyone would opt for an M4 when you can get an M2 xDrive that’s a bit lighter, more nimble and is expected to put out 500+ HP.

M2 is a smaller car, some people need the little extra space

[///MPhatic]

Originally Posted by mike@x-ph.com

i hope the grills stay, really like them now.

Wow. Just wow.

Let me guess, you're warming up to the new M2 as well?

Those two are like...

[vladberca]

Originally Posted by ledphut

I would personally. You get all the of the engine performance (much more torque actually) and none of the harsh ride. Plus it can be had in Touring form, which to me is just sexy as hell. Finally, the old grille is much more appealing in my opinion.

That’s not even mentioning the interior which can be configured with Lavalina leather, the same supplier that Rolls Royce uses for their top of the line spec.

And costs less than an M3 on the markets where is sold!
I like the B4 GT GranCoupe! 😎