Future BMW model information (Response Archive)

FilipMPower · 11-25-2015, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by AKRAPOVICOWNS

The M5 cant put the power down as it is now, imagine with 600+. We all know the xdrive will be very rear biased, as stated by the M boss.

Well a 40:60 split is called rear biased too, so...

I would hope for more like 30:70 to 20:80 permanent, or if it is active, then standardized 30:70 and up to 40 to the front and up to 100 to the rear.

I want the car to do burnouts! Dont dissappoint now, M!

To be honest I would wish for some abstract solution. Similar to the Ferrari FF AWD maybe.

dsad1 · 11-25-2015, 04:38 PM

Can't believe the new F12 and new F06 are so far away. They already feel somewhat outdated, by then they will feel ancient.

Arcades · 11-25-2015, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by djsaad1

Can't believe the new F12 and new F06 are so far away. They already feel somewhat outdated, by then they will feel ancient.

Well you have to understand cars come out yearly. So honestly I'm not really upset. I love my M4. Dream car

LCI or not.

LDSM · 11-25-2015, 04:55 PM

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(So far unconfirmed, but the signals are strong) All UKL platform cars (both BMW and Mini) are going to get the dual clutch transmission some time in 2017.

This is an interesting move, would they abandon the ZF 8 speed altogether?

I thought the ZF transmission was serving them well?
Any ideas why BMW would make this move?

Jai 302 · 11-25-2015, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by djsaad1

Can't believe the new F12 and new F06 are so far away. They already feel somewhat outdated, by then they will feel ancient.

Funny you mention that because I headed to the BMW dealer a few months ago to trade in my 6er for something new but walked out because no other coupe they had looked even remotely as good or upscale as the current 6 series (except the 3 cylinder i8... sigh) and the LCI 6er wasn't different enough to warrant an upgrade.

So I ended up keeping my Bimmer and got myself a 664lbft AMG torque monster to keep it company. And I'm really happy I chose the AMG over the tame i8 because the sound alone makes it well worth the extra $30k, and it's got a folding hardtop to boot.

If only BMW had a Z8 ///M, i8 ///M or an ///M8... But they're too happy catering to the cheaper market segments so they're bound to lose sales to Merc, Porsche, Audi, Aston and even McLaren in the $150-200k segment as they offer absolutely nothing whatsoever above the 760i. And it's a shame because BMW has so much potential..

ynguldyn · 11-25-2015, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by LDSM

This is an interesting move, would they abandon the ZF 8 speed altogether?

I thought the ZF transmission was serving them well?
Any ideas why BMW would make this move?

Because it's not ZF, but subpar Aisin.

vladislav · 11-25-2015, 05:42 PM

It's a shame to have awd only bmw m5! Guys, i wanna m5- not audi! Oversteer is gone.... welcome to understeer(boredom) club

BoosTonian · 11-25-2015, 06:00 PM

xDrive will (hopefully) be an option in the M5. No way they'd trash the rwd version of one of their signature cars. That's what the M cars are known for. Even with xDrive, I'm hoping it is (as the M boss says) a rwd system where the front wheels kick in only when needed.

Dackelone · 11-25-2015, 06:05 PM

ynguldyn what car model will be the first to get the S58 engine(M engine based on the B48 340i engine) ??

Will this happen on the last of the F82 M4 production cars?

jaehshim · 11-25-2015, 06:16 PM

lol it is only getting worse huh
bye bye new bmw and M division....
oh, new guilia with ferrari derived v6 turbo is coming to the US~!!!

SCOTT26 · 11-25-2015, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by vladislav

It's a shame to have awd only bmw m5! Guys, i wanna m5- not audi! Oversteer is gone.... welcome to understeer(boredom) club

You will be fine as you are in Europe.

SCOTT26 · 11-25-2015, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by jaehshim

lol it is only getting worse huh
bye bye new bmw and M division....
oh, new guilia with ferrari derived v6 turbo is coming to the US~!!!

Yes in about two years after it debuted. Don't be surprised of more "delays"

IS3andME · 11-25-2015, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by vladislav

It's a shame to have awd only bmw m5! Guys, i wanna m5- not audi! Oversteer is gone.... welcome to understeer(boredom) club

Well, time to look at Cadillac then. It has 640 hp and RWD. And rumor is, it could have more.

Nordkeyz73 · 11-25-2015, 06:48 PM

xDrive is for traction so look forward to low 3 second 0-60 sprints.

W/// · 11-25-2015, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Dackelone

ynguldyn what car model will be the first to get the S58 engine(M engine based on the B48 340i engine) ??

Will this happen on the last of the F82 M4 production cars?

X3/4M will surely be one of the cars that get the S58

Nordkeyz73 · 11-25-2015, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Dackelone

ynguldyn what car model will be the first to get the S58 engine(M engine based on the B48 340i engine) ??

Will this happen on the last of the F82 M4 production cars?

I hope the new M3/M4 have it, might hold out for it.

LDSM · 11-25-2015, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by SCOTT26

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Originally Posted by vladislav

It's a shame to have awd only bmw m5! Guys, i wanna m5- not audi! Oversteer is gone.... welcome to understeer(boredom) club

You will be fine as you are in Europe.

so if xdrive is the only option for the m5 in the us market, What kind of market research are they looking at, clearly everyone on the boards does not want an awd car.

Tell BMW to stop looking at these comparison tests and competitor 0-60 times and stay true to their roots

aajami · 11-25-2015, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by SCOTT26

You will be fine as you are in Europe.

Can you explain this, Scott? The warm-weather market in the US is much bigger than Europe, isn't it? Why would Europe get a RWD F90 but not the US?

I will likely never be in the market for a car the size of an M5, but if the M3 ever went xDrive-only, I'd be gone from the brand like the wind.

LDSM · 11-25-2015, 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by aajami

Can you explain this, Scott? The warm-weather market in the US is much bigger than Europe, isn't it? Why would Europe get a RWD F90 but not the US?

I will likely never be in the market for a car the size of an M5, but if the M3 ever went xDrive-only, I'd be gone from the brand like the wind.

Because BMW thinks all we americans care about is 0-60 times

Lt1camaro · 11-25-2015, 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by LDSM

Because BMW thinks all we americans care about is 0-60 times

In Canada i see 6 M5's for every E63S's, the AWD option is 100% irrelevant imo for the North American market.

Bmw is making a huge mistake if they make the next gen m5 AWD only.

TheBingoBalls · 11-25-2015, 08:44 PM

Makes sense. The M5 already has traction problems. BMW isn't going to sacrifice a few customers who want RWD just for the sake of RWD when it no longer makes sense with the expected numbers the M5 is going to have. If those decide to go to Cadillac for RWD, BMW is going to risk it as long as they can keep up with S6/RS6 and E63 AMG (S).

ynguldyn · 11-25-2015, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Dackelone

ynguldyn what car model will be the first to get the S58 engine(M engine based on the B48 340i engine) ??

No idea. If that engine happens, it won't be any time soon.

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