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if the model3, electric jag and others make headway bmw and a lot of other marques will be caught flat footed.
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Tell that to the government who keeps regulating the hell out of these companies and the consumers who seem to only want to buy various versions of utility vehicles. There is a reason there are very few options that you speak of, people don't buy them in volume and the government is regulating them out of existence in any kind of volume that makes financial sense. We are fortunate to have the options we have but I think we have maybe 5 more years of cars with this level of performance before they get totally regulated out of existence so buy what you want soon.
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I love my GT and I know 100% it can look better. So I'm excited for the upcoming new version. It will definitely be a looker.
I feel bad for people that don't understand the GT. It's such an amazing practical car with agility and power. |
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Sorry bro your car is and always will be ugly and a prime example of what's wrong with BMW today.
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There really is a LOT more to it. First- Refueling EVs is going to have to be as quick and convenient as gasoline or at least diesel. Too many people live in condos, apartments, or use on-street parking where they can't charge while they sleep.
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Oh BMW..oh BMW. They are trying to merge the GT with the GC in order to satisfy both buyers with one car. I hope im wrong.
People that buy GC gives up usability for style. Take the 5 series and the 6 GC, the 6 GC looks stunning next to the 5er, even the G30. We've seen mules of this "6GT"..its just a 5 series with different C pillar and maybe tail lights. Lame. The G30 already pales in sexyness next to the current 6GC. Completely other league..i hope they aren't thinking they can sell that to current 6GC owners. It blows my mind. The 4 and 6 GC, as stated multiple times, outsell both cabrio and coupes together. Its beyond me why would they f* this up, by turning both into a "frankestein" GT/GC. There are people who cleary wants a stylish 4-door. There are people who wants the GT. End. |
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the holdouts are going to be guys like us wanting engines. most people will not care. i remember when cell phones were so expensive only the rich had it. now people in poor countries all have it and the telecom infrastructure had to change from copper to cell towers along the way.
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Intresting, BMW needs to make more EV, as the ICE is going away in 10-15 years time.
As for the i brand, i'm not sure if that is a brand you want to keep going? But at the end of the day, i only care about the result, not if it's e-drive, BMW i or BMW itself, as long as there is a sporty and exciting, but still full package EV from BMW. Coming fra a F25 and a i01, i'd love a new EV from BMW, if there is coming a new X3 EV, fine, but it need to perform as a SUV, trailerhitch and so on.
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When will this forum realize that they are the minority of BMW customers and not the majority? I can't tell you how many times I've read: "This is going to kill BMW" or "This is exactly what is wrong with BMW". Then I see stories about how BMW is setting records and having their biggest quarters ever. The e series owners hate the f series. The f series owners hate the g series. All this complaining and time goes on and BMW does better and better. The Telsa is a successful hatchback and BMW is looking to mimic those results.
Not everyone wants an M series, two-door, gas guzzling, wheel squealing, rear wheel drive drifting car. Yes, I drive a 3GT. Yes, I love it. Last edited by DanITman; 05-16-2017 at 08:30 AM.. |
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The BMW 2-Series Coupe MSRP @ $33,150...
And BMW is going to design and build an all-electric 3 series for $35,950. Okay
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Again, no doubt that in a decade there will be a lot more electric choices, and the PHEV drivetrain will have proliferated into all of the segments I mention above. But the ICE will be absolutely nowhere near dead. Not even close. |
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Makes a new line of 2 door coupe to differentiate it from the 4 door sedan. Then makes a subtype of that 2 door coupe with 4 doors. And another version with a sedan roofline and taller boot with 4 doors. Then makes a version of the original 4 door sedan with a taller boot. LOL
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In Norway, as i said, EV's are getting close to 20% of the entire car market. You mentioned some niches that's obviously are not getting any solutions in years yet. But as for boats and ferry's - this industry are seeing huge shift from dieselpowered solutions to hybrid or fully electric powered boats. Some are also used with Hydrogen and fuelcells, depends on the timeframe on shore/land which solution that's beeing prefereed. The shipyards are seeing a 90% increase in these kind of new ferry's, also trains are beeing transfeered from diesel to hybrids as well. Not to mention, the Tesla truck. With this, i'm not saying every transport will be electric or hybrid within a few years timeframe, surely there will be ICE solutions also, but there will be few and far between. The diesel engine are beeing abandoned because of it's NOX problems, Volvo and other brands are not going to delvelop their diesel anymore, it's to expensive. But all in all, let's say that in 2025, it will be hard to buy a ICE, and another 5 years i belive they will be few and far between.
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