[G30M]

Originally Posted by Artemis

UK press criticizing Horner's "Me, Myself and I" behavior:

ah UK press never fails to twist the knife when you're down, but this was obviously a set up

CH is not a saint however, likely neither are his accusers, and no i'm not defending him

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by g21

ah UK press never fails to twist the knife when you're down, but this was obviously a set up

CH is not a saint however, likely neither are his accusers, and no i'm not defending him

Absolutely, a loyal wife supporting her husband is the bedrock of any true loving marriage and shown to the journalistic virgins at Bahrain.

[minn19]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

Absolutely, a loyal wife supporting her husband is the bedrock of any true loving marriage and shown to the journalistic virgins at Bahrain.

You mean that disgusting dog and pony show Geri was forced into by CH and his family. It’s bad enough what she is going through, but then to be used as marketing tool/pawn by them is another level of unbelievably bad behavior by CH.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by minn19

You mean that disgusting dog and pony show Geri was forced into by CH and his family. It’s bad enough what she is going through, but then to be used as marketing tool/pawn by them is another level of unbelievably bad behavior by CH.

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[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by minn19

You mean that disgusting dog and pony show Geri was forced into by CH and his family. It’s bad enough what she is going through, but then to be used as marketing tool/pawn by them is another level of unbelievably bad behavior by CH.

Nope, no tricks or acts just 14 years of marriage trust to stand up for her hubby when gold diggers and liars pile in at once.

[///MPhatic]

Originally Posted by minn19

You mean that disgusting dog and pony show Geri was forced into by CH and his family. It’s bad enough what she is going through, but then to be used as marketing tool/pawn by them is another level of unbelievably bad behavior by CH.

You're terrible (like a lot of guys in this thread) about talking like you know things you don't know at all. Opinions are opinions, but you shouldn't talk like you know unless you have both of their cell #'s in your phone and are a close family friend.

[minn19]

Originally Posted by ///MPhatic

You're terrible (like a lot of guys in this thread) about talking like you know things you don't know at all. Opinions are opinions, but you shouldn't talk like you know unless you have both of their cell #'s in your phone and are a close family friend.

You’re right, I’m sure she loves being humiliated in the press and then getting to see the looks and whispers all weekend in the paddock in person. All on top of dealing with trying to protect her kids from all of this and figure out what shes going to do with her marriage. I’m sure it was a blast for her, all because of her husband’s misdeeds. Just so fanboys can say see, she doesn’t want him fired so you shouldn’t fire him.

Gotta love out of control misogyny and patriarchy. I expect nothing less with this group. F1 has always been and probably always will be the European version of the good ‘ol’ boys club.

[///MPhatic]

Originally Posted by minn19

You’re right, I’m sure she loves being humiliated in the press and then getting to see the looks and whispers all weekend in the paddock in person. All on top of dealing with trying to protect her kids from all of this and figure out what shes going to do with her marriage. I’m sure it was a blast for her, all because of her husband’s misdeeds. Just so fanboys can say see, she doesn’t want him fired so you shouldn’t fire him.

Gotta love out of control misogyny and patriarchy. I expect nothing less with this group. F1 has always been and probably always will be the European version of the good ‘ol’ boys club.

You're sure right up to the point where you have no idea what you're talking about, which is (like the rest of us) at the word "sure."

Holier than thou attitudes like yours are always, and I mean always hypocritical, or have you not yet figured out that you're judging yourself?

[minn19]

Originally Posted by ///MPhatic

You're sure right up to the point where you have no idea what you're talking about, which is (like the rest of us) at the word "sure."

Holier than thou attitudes like yours are always, and I mean always hypocritical, or have you not yet figured out that you're judging yourself?

Holier than thou, hypocrite? You mean reality and the same ol story playing out again and again like this.

[TTM0TION]

The same ol' story that's recently been playing out isn't this though. It's women files claim against a man, man loses everything, it's discovered the woman was full of shit. Man still lost everything.


I don't know what happened but if it's less than clear I'm glad Reb Bull didn't bend the knee to all these bogus movements and ruin people lives until they dug into it. First company to do so in a long time.

[TTM0TION]

MARKO COULD FACE SUSPENSION AMID FRESH RED BULL INVESTIGATION
Red Bull’s motorsport advisor Helmut Marko has admitted that there is a possibility he could be suspended after this weekend’s Formula 1 race in Saudi Arabia.

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/m...tion/10584969/

[G30M]

you guys are all forgetting all the nameless faces that thrust this woman into the spotlight to get rid of Horner, and once they had their fun with her, they threw her under the bus and said nothing as they sacked her.

yup.

[Artemis]

Erik van Haren (De Telegraaf) pointed out that the Feb 29 Google Drive files are "not fake" (his words). At no point did Horner claim those files to be fake, false or doctored. Yesterday, during the press conference, Horner had a new chance to deny the authenticity. However, he spoke about "leakage":

"Question: Obviously, you can't comment on the situation about the employee suspension. Is there a plan to bring some transparency to this in the future? And do you kind of recognize why it's necessary to do something? Because obviously, to the watching world, particularly the female population watching, it doesn't really fit in with the attempts that F1 and Red Bull have made to show that it's a positive place for women to be. You can understand why it hits a nerve there. So is there anything that you can commit to down the line that will actually make what's happened clearer and regain that confidence?
Horner: I think it's a complicated issue because each company – and these companies will be exactly the same as with any other major company. There is a grievance process that takes place in any company and that process is confidential between the individuals and the company itself. I'm not at liberty, unfortunately, due to those confidentiality [concerns] and out of respect to the company and, of course, the other party, that we're all bound by the same restrictions. And so even if I would like to talk about it, I can't because of those confidentiality restrictions.
There's a reason for that. Now, the only reason that this has gained so much attention, obviously, is because of the leakage and the tension that there's been drawn in the media, which has been very trying in many respects, and particularly for my family, because it's all been focused very much in one direction. And of course, what has happened then after that, others have looked to take advantage of it. And whether that be for… Unfortunately, Formula 1 is a competitive business, and there's been, obviously, elements have looked to benefit from it, and that's perhaps the not-so-pretty side of our industry. So, of course, there are always lessons, but there's a process that is governed within the company that it's not an FIA issue, it's not a Formula 1 issue, it's a company employee issue, and that would be the same in any major organisation."

"Question: Christian, you said it's time to move on, but why do you think it has taken people so long to move on from this, including the media, including the public?
Horner: There's been a constant source of… You know, there's been one thing after another. And I think that, you know, as I say, there's been an awful lot of leakage around this, what is a private and confidential matter between the employees and the company. It’s unfortunately through that, through that leakage it has garnered an awful lot of coverage. And as I say, it's now time to focus on the track and what we're here to do which is to go racing. And you know we're a race team. We've got some phenomenal partners that have been hugely supportive through this.
The team, the company, the 1,600 people that work within the group, I have to thank them as well for their support. And, yeah, you know, it's time to move on. We see today Formula 1 Academy coming alive with the support of the teams. We have three drivers, three cars across the Red Bull Group in that. We've announced new partners that we welcome to the sport. And I think that now is the point of focus that we're here for a Grand Prix and we should be talking about the cars and the drivers."

And about honesty vs hypocrisy. To each his own - it's none of my business how your significant other reacts if he/she'd discover any such Google Drive conversations, pillow talk and pictures (including a graphic one) exchanged between you and a work colleague. As regards Horner: was his wife bothered by the contents of what was leaked ? He said during the press conference yesterday that the situation/tension "has been very trying in many respects, and particularly for my family". Regret is usually belated common sense.

Zak Brown on CNN:
https://edition.cnn.com/2024/03/08/s...ntl/index.html

[lens]

https://www.reddit.com/r/formula1/co...lear_i_cannot/


HAH

I hope Max leaves.

You have no idea how many drivers on that grid would thank god, and also kill for his seat.

That RB seat is a guaranteed WDC until 2026.

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by ttm0tion

marko could face suspension amid fresh red bull investigation
red bull’s motorsport advisor helmut marko has admitted that there is a possibility he could be suspended after this weekend’s formula 1 race in saudi arabia.

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/m...tion/10584969/

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by lens

https://www.reddit.com/r/formula1/co...lear_i_cannot/


HAH

I hope Max leaves.

You have no idea how many drivers on that grid would thank god, and also kill for his seat.

That RB seat is a guaranteed WDC until 2026.

MAX will drive a Red Bull car for the rest of his F1 career .

[G30M]

Originally Posted by Artemis

Erik van Haren (De Telegraaf) pointed out that the Feb 29 Google Drive files are "not fake" (his words). At no point did Horner claim those files to be fake, false or doctored. Yesterday, during the press conference, Horner had a new chance to deny the authenticity. However, he spoke about "leakage":

i'm not sure what you guys are on about one person. people have relations all the time. Max (apparently, according to Danny) took Danny Kvyat's seat, girlfriend, and daughter from right under Danny's nose. nobody made a big deal out of it, danny compained, and guess what nobody cared, nobody cares. I guess Christian Horner is like Novak Djokovic, GOAT but nobody likes him and will find every chance to mock him.

i'm no CH fan either but he's no different from the rest of the paddock or his accusers as far as I'm concerned.

so now it's Marko's turn i see... hmm ...

[lens]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

MAX will drive a Red Bull car for the rest of his F1 career .

Nah

He said he would leave if Marko got fired or left.

[///MPhatic]

Originally Posted by lens

Nah

He said he would leave if Marko got fired or left.

I want to see him side by side with Lewis in a Ferrari.

[G30M]

Originally Posted by ///MPhatic

I want to see him side by side with Lewis in a Ferrari.

Ferrari:

Pit: Lewis, we are checking .... whether Max is faster ...

Also Ferrari,

LH asks re strategy:

Pit: Lewis, if you finish behind Max, he will win.

[M3WC]

Originally Posted by lens

Nah

He said he would leave if Marko got fired or left.

Leave for who?

The Merc just showed to be 5th fastest car on grid in Jeddah.

[MontyB1]

Well this story goes on, and on….

Verstappen clear, without Marks I won’t continue at Red Bull.

Seems Max is pretty clear that they better not let him go, seems however from various stories that Helmut has said he might just go anyway. I mean at 80 who needs the crap that Horner seems to be adding to the team at the moment.