[TheM3Boy]

Originally Posted by frankchn

Why is anyone surprised?

Mercedes has the GLS 63S and Audi has the RSQ8. If anything, BMW is late to this segment. In fact, I am surprised that BMW didn't make an X7M.

Not just yet!

[Alpine300zhp]

Hmm. An x7 with the rear from the x6. That will look terrible and no amount of M treatment will change that.

[F32Fleet]

Originally Posted by SabineBimmer

The G-wagon is such a household name that even the thought of the vehicle, therefore the perception of the vehicle, is almost legend.

G-Wagon also lives on its off-road reputation, kinda like Land Rover and Jeep Wrangler.

I don't see a lot of current G-Wagon owners looking to buy the real McCoy.

https://expeditionmotorcompany.com/builds/

[535i MSport]

Originally Posted by Mo@BMWofFairfax

The average age of a BMW owner was like 48 back in 2014 or 2015. Those people don't want that same 'exciting' drive anymore. I'm sure the average age has gone up.

I am a bit older than that and still want an exciting drive, so that just goes to prove that we are all different. I think that it's less to do with age and more to do with people's interests. Some people don't even know what the Nurburgring is for goodness sakes....��

Both of my boys are into cars because I have been, so they appreciate cars that are good to drive. Plus I trained my wife - some track time helped of course ��

[Germanauto]

Can't believe some people are defending this. Yes it makes business sense but so has every other anti-enthusiast decision BMW corporate has been making over the years. That's akin to a Detroit Lions or Cleveland Browns fan consistently backing the decisions of the front office and ownership. Should Chargers and Rams fans have been supportive with the money grab relocation to LA? Real fans/enthusiasts don't tolerate bullshit from the suits.

Unlike Porsche BMW does not seem to be using the profits from SAVs into creating more sports cars. Besides the M2 and MAYBE the oversized M3/4 which product in BMW's portfolio can you argue places it's full emphasis on the driver first? I can't think of a single one.

[SCOTT26]

There will be a BMW X8. It's more like an X2 than an X6.

[Alpine300zhp]

Originally Posted by SCOTT26

There will be a BMW X8. It's more like an X2 than an X6.

Please explain? The cars get bigger as the number goes up.......

[themnmd]

Originally Posted by 535i MSport

They do seem to have lost the plot.

Simple, what ever sells more units

[spuntyb]

Originally Posted by stefan

A school bus with a sloped roof--you know, because "coupe"

They'll sell every one of them.

[Mingwan]

[Hegge]

Originally Posted by Mo@BMWofFairfax

Only a matter of time to be honest. BMW wants a slice of the high end SUV pie. The question is, are customers willing to pay for it? I'm assuming this will an SUV with a slowing roofline. This SUV could very well cost somewhere between $140,000 to $180,000 and the options in that price range are very open.

I guess time will tell.




I agree 100%. Both of these cars have built a hardcore following as well. One specific reason people love the G-Wagon for example is the 'thunk' of the doors.



Remember, SUV's were something like 50% of BMW sales in the USA. Why would they invest in R&D for a model that won't sell? BMW has board members to please.

I'm just yearning for the good old days when kids would have sports car posters on their bedroom wall. Now apparently they have SUVs and buses.

[AlexFL]

BMW is already making the crazy luxurious and overpriced RR Cullinan and it's a huge commercial success. The X8 will possibly be based on the Cullinan platform, cost only 1/2 of it, and possibly feature the mighty N74 V12. Because why not??

[AD18]

Originally Posted by joshuastein55

And no M halo car to compete with the 911, AMG GT, or R8. Even Lexus made a super car. But instead, we get an SUV the size of the grand canyon touting around an M badge :

Agree, this would have been a great and long overdue addition. But with their current trend, I'm not convinced they could pull it off well enough, or well enough for what us here are yearning for...

[mkoesel]

Originally Posted by AlexFL

BMW is already making the crazy luxurious and overpriced RR Cullinan and it's a huge commercial success. The X8 will possibly be based on the Cullinan platform, cost only 1/2 of it, and possibly feature the mighty N74 V12. Because why not??

That's not a realistic scenario. We already know the X8 is coming on CLAR and will share drivetrains with top-tier BMW models. This means the V12 will not be in the mix.

A vehicle similar to what you describe could be added to the RR portfolio as an SUV counterpart to the Ghost (borrowing its platform rather than the Phantom/Cullinan platform). But that is speculative and there is nothing known at this point.

[The Automotive Enthusiast]

Originally Posted by AlexFL

BMW is already making the crazy luxurious and overpriced RR Cullinan and it's a huge commercial success. The X8 will possibly be based on the Cullinan platform, cost only 1/2 of it, and possibly feature the mighty N74 V12. Because why not??

The V12 is dead in the BMW lineup. It has no future.

Originally Posted by Hegge

I'm just yearning for the good old days when kids would have sports car posters on their bedroom wall. Now apparently they have SUVs and buses.

Ahh, those were the days. I remember my Lamborghini Diablo SV poster....

[Fuller]

Originally Posted by khailuan

Unbelievable... The most common reaction here after learning that BMW might produce a new M model is bitching. The worst part is that they haven't even seen a sketch of it let alone a concept. Hating something without even seeing it first... that's a new low. Take an effin business class people. Car companies like BMW need to expand their product lines, pierce new markets (or create new ones) in order to attract a new clientele if they want to maintain growth and keep that top position among luxury car makers.

The disinterest is in the nomenclature:
X - Another big boxy suv, among the multitudes already available from every manufacturer
8 - Will carry a price tag that many people won't want to pay
M - Will likely be capable of generating 975 hp at 2000 rpm, but due to the two preceding letters, it's relegated to being a mere curiosity instead of a real world interest.

[Chihuahua]

Originally Posted by cactusjack

jesus christ please no... BMW went to shit real fast

FTFY.

[gmag]

Originally Posted by Alpine300zhp

Please explain? The cars get bigger as the number goes up.......

He means that rather than an X6-like design, the design of X8 will be similar to the X2 design but of course on a bigger scale.

BTW, ALL 3 drive-trains on the X8 will be plug-in hybrids. As has already been said, base model will be M45e.
Middle model, M50e will have same PHEV drivetrain as upcoming G70 7 series M750e.
Top model X8 M will have new S68 V8 (which is a thoroughly reworked S63 V8) coupled with an electric motor.

[Alpine300zhp]

Originally Posted by gmag

He means that rather than an X6-like design, the design of X8 will be similar to the X2 design but of course on a bigger scale.

BTW, ALL 3 drive-trains on the X8 will be plug-in hybrids. As has already been said, base model will be M45e.
Middle model, M50e will have same PHEV drivetrain as upcoming G70 7 series M750e.
Top model X8 M will have new S68 V8 (which is a thoroughly reworked S63 V8) coupled with an electric motor.

Oh. So basically a BMW version of the Tesla Model X?

[///M TOWN]

Originally Posted by Alpine300zhp

Oh. So basically a BMW version of the Tesla Model X?

Until BMW brings out the iNext they will have absolutely nothing even close.

And as far as iNext competeing with Model X performance, we'll have to wait and see.

[IK6SPEED]

I'm just waiting for an M series dually truck. Like an M3500 would be great for those customers who wanna tow their boat or RV trailer around a race track.

[elitesales305]

Originally Posted by kyrix1st

They could build a 30-seater M bus for all I care if they use the revenue generated by sales to enhance driving dynamics of M3.

Learn from Porsche.

Oh u mean like the current dull steering , nannies, and turbo displacement???
Yea i think theyr pocketing the cash bud