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      08-10-2022, 05:36 PM   #1101
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None of us predicting 106k msrp with options driving the car cost to 160k or so.
I don't know who "us" is but I wasn't part of those who guessed the Z06 would be below $100k. Shit- I remember people estimating the Stingray would be near $100k before pricing was announced! The straight fact is a Z06 isn't a <$100k vehicle. Not sure who is so delusional or ignorant about the automobile market to think it is. Perhaps wishful thinking clouded peoples' judgment.
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      08-10-2022, 05:39 PM   #1102
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I don't know who "us" is but I wasn't part of those who guessed the Z07 would be below $100k. Shit- I remember people estimating the Stingray would be near $100k before pricing was announced! The straight fact is a Z06 isn't a <$100k vehicle. Not sure who is so delusional or ignorant about the automobile market to think it is. Perhaps wishful thinking clouded peoples' judgment.
I'm not talking about a Z07, i am talking about a base z06 at MSRP.

The Z07 package is always an extra option to the z06.

There were many people on the corvette forum who thought the car would be 85k. Jesus christ they couldn't be more wrong.
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      08-10-2022, 06:45 PM   #1103
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I'm not talking about a Z07, i am talking about a base z06 at MSRP.

The Z07 package is always an extra option to the z06.

There were many people on the corvette forum who thought the car would be 85k. Jesus christ they couldn't be more wrong.
That's because that probably wasn't too far off. Many don't know this, but the C8 platform is the most profitable generation corvette GM has ever made (meaning the margins are FAT - they make more on a single C8 than they did on any other individual corvette prior). The Z06 was probably going to start right under $100k. Then inflation happened, COVID caused production prices to increase and GM started shoveling money into EV R&D. And here we are.
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      08-10-2022, 06:58 PM   #1104
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That's because that probably wasn't too far off. Many don't know this, but the C8 platform is the most profitable generation corvette GM has ever made (meaning they make more on a a single C8 than they did on any other individual corvette prior). The Z06 was probably going to start right under $100k. Then inflation happened, COVID caused production prices to increase and GM started shoveling money into EV R&D. And here we are.
You're preaching to the choir. I been saying that the C8 generation is nothing like the past but the yoyo's on that forum think they know better. They don't.

I actually would not be surprised if they price the hybrid LT2 C8 at 85-90. An attractive middle ground that will show buyers they don't need/have to wait for a z06 when you have AWD and a small hybrid system to the already torquey LT2. The only thing that was lacking with the stingray is top end and i believe that would be addressed with the hybrid model.

The ZR1 would start at 175k. Then the ZORA (full EV model IMHO), will exceed 200k. Basically taking aim at every hyper EV out there, even the tesla roadster that supposed to come around 2024.

GM isn't playing games with the C8. This is the best generation so far. And we're only on the 2nd variant.
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I don't know who "us" is but I wasn't part of those who guessed the Z07 would be below $100k. Shit- I remember people estimating the Stingray would be near $100k before pricing was announced! The straight fact is a Z06 isn't a <$100k vehicle. Not sure who is so delusional or ignorant about the automobile market to think it is. Perhaps wishful thinking clouded peoples' judgment.
I'm not talking about a Z07, i am talking about a base z06 at MSRP.

The Z07 package is always an extra option to the z06.

There were many people on the corvette forum who thought the car would be 85k. Jesus christ they couldn't be more wrong.
I corrected my post to Z06 but I guess you responded before you saw my correction.
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Who wants a 13 year old Ferrari? Who wants a run of the mill Corvette? There is nothing special about Corvette's for the millionth time. They are as common as Honda Civics. This thread is a joke
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Who wants a 13 year old Ferrari? Who wants a run of the mill Corvette? There is nothing special about Corvette's for the millionth time. They are as common as Honda Civics. This thread is a joke
Here comes the copy paste submit reply:-). We all know it😳🔫
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Here comes the copy paste submit reply:-). We all know it😳🔫
Sort of a pot meet kettle thing there.
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A Ferrari is a special car. I would rather have 2009 F430 than a new Corvette. Wouldn't even think twice
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Sort of a pot meet kettle thing there.
Just trying to help out. Some are just a lost cause. Lol
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      08-11-2022, 06:31 AM   #1111
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Sort of a pot meet kettle thing there.
Hahahaha

It’s fun exposing the clowns
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      08-11-2022, 11:08 AM   #1112
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Hahahaha

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That's because that probably wasn't too far off. Many don't know this, but the C8 platform is the most profitable generation corvette GM has ever made (meaning the margins are FAT - they make more on a single C8 than they did on any other individual corvette prior). The Z06 was probably going to start right under $100k. Then inflation happened, COVID caused production prices to increase and GM started shoveling money into EV R&D. And here we are.
I think the thing that kinda piss people off is that their wages have not gone up accordingly. That's why it's more out of reach.
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I think the thing that kinda piss people off is that their wages have not gone up accordingly. That's why it's more out of reach.
No kidding, as cost of houses went up 3-4x in the last 20 years, wages didn't. This isn't something that just happened in the last couple months.
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      08-12-2022, 10:23 AM   #1115
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Weren't carbon brakes standard on the ZR1? So the $8500+ charge was baked into the price already. So a wing and splitter for $3k not a full performance aero and suspension/brakes upgrade package.
lol smh
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Who wants a 13 year old Ferrari? Who wants a run of the mill Corvette? There is nothing special about Corvette's for the millionth time. They are as common as Honda Civics. This thread is a joke


And an m4 comp isn't?


Get your head out of the sand.
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And an m4 comp isn't?


Get your head out of the sand.
You are a troll which is why everyone blocked you lol
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I think the thing that kinda piss people off is that their wages have not gone up accordingly. That's why it's more out of reach.
Not the fault of gm. They priced this car according to demand of the stingray and inflation among other things.

It’s not their fault peoples salaries didn’t go up with inflation. There are many people who are fortunate to still have jobs since the pandemic started. I know some people who were making 100+k to making 45k a year now. It’s fucking sad.
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Not the fault of gm. They priced this car according to demand of the stingray and inflation among other things.

It’s not their fault peoples salaries didn’t go up with inflation. There are many people who are fortunate to still have jobs since the pandemic started. I know some people who were making 100+k to making 45k a year now. It’s fucking sad.
LOL @ not the fault of the company that makes & priced it
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LOL @ not the fault of the company that makes & priced it
How is it their fault?

What drove used stingray prices up? Demand, lack of proper production numbers, insane waiting times, inflation.

Why would they price the z06 at 90k in today's market when 2020 stingrays are still fetching for 85-95 for 1LT models. Used 3LT models are still going for 110k.

Are people stupid for buying them? Sure. But that's NOT the fault of GM.

If they can't produce enough of a product, and the demand is so high, the price goes higher. Supply and demand. People want the car. People can't wait. Some do some can't. I can get my stingray today if i want. But then i'll be buying a used one with 10k miles for 25k over that MSRP when new. Instead my build is about 80k, for a '23 model and i can get in spring. Because i can wait.

The z06 is priced according to economic times, inflation, interest and demand.

It's 106k MSRP, not 160k.

People really have to stop bitching. If you want the car, pay up and stop whining.
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You are a troll which is why everyone blocked you lol


As i've said before, anytime someone on this forum comments something that isn't in line with the same narrative as everyone else on here.. its "trolling" I love it.


So you're saying you're m4 is rare in comparison to the vette?

If you live in Idaho, i'm sure it is. Other than that, dime a dozen. Period. Get out of your feelings.
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