[Mr.SugarSkulls]

Originally Posted by fecurtis

Man, I don't know why I remember so much about this accident (admittedly it's probably because I was having fun making jokes about how he's already driving like a woman).

Anyway, no smoking is not treated as a significant factor which would warrant vehicular manslaughter. Per the police investigation, the Prius that was in front of both Jenner's Hummer and the victims Lexus suddenly made a random stop triggering the incident. Jenner slammed on his brakes and swerved in an attempt to miss the Lexus.

Not sure why you keep thinking the facts of the case would warrant a vehicular manslaughter charge. The only person making an ass of themselves is you.

Stick to your own state? :

[Mr.SugarSkulls]

Originally Posted by fecurtis

Man, I don't know why I remember so much about this accident (admittedly it's probably because I was having fun making jokes about how he's already driving like a woman).

Anyway, no smoking is not treated as a significant factor which would warrant vehicular manslaughter. Per the police investigation, the Prius that was in front of both Jenner's Hummer and the victims Lexus suddenly made a random stop triggering the incident. Jenner slammed on his brakes and swerved in an attempt to miss the Lexus. Given these facts, authorities, rightfully, decided not to press any criminal charges. But what do I know? I should just let any unfounded personal bias against him think he got away with cold blooded murder like you do.

Not sure why you keep thinking the facts of the case would warrant a vehicular manslaughter charge. The only person making an ass of themselves is you.

Look real talk- you and I clearly don't see eye to eye and don't care much for one another.

Go about your way and I will mine.

I added the reason why he wasn't charged. Because what police claim was different than what the diagnostics show on his car (which would warrant speeding)

I'm basing what I'm stating based off the letter of the law. What, is it my fault too that because of loop holes like this, people get away with vehicular manslaughter? Bimmette even claimed in most cases, people do time, but not always. This is one of those cases that didn't. Doesn't mean he didn't deserve it.

Because the conflict- they didn't. However, if this were you me or some other "no name", we wouldn't have gotten away with it. Believe that.

[fecurtis]

Originally Posted by Mr.SugarSkulls

Look real talk- you and I clearly don't see eye to eye and don't care much for one another.

Go about your way and I will mine.

Don't care much for one another? Why's that? Because clearly I keep proving you haven't a single clue what you're talking about?

Here's the full context of that quote you showed:

Smoking while driving has been condemned by the Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration, and numerous legal practices in California treat smoking as a significant factor in car accidents, though it is not illegal.

Emphasis mine.

And I dunno what you were trying to convey with the second photo since it's only a fraction of a paragraph. I suppose intellectual discourse isn't quite you're thing:

If he’s going at a really excessive speed, if he’s under the influence of alcohol or a drug, if [Bruce was] texting, these would certainly be things that a prosecutor would want to explore, but most drivers that are involved in fatality crashes – even when it’s their fault – are not charged with vehicular manslaughter. It’s very unlikely he would be charged with a criminal [offense], and if he was charged, it would only be because he’s Bruce Jenner.

But yeah I'd give up too if I were you, your argument that smoking a cigarette warrants a vehicular manslaughter charge won't get you very far with sounding like someone who knows what they're talking about.

If I were to have the exact same thing happen to me, I would NOT have a vehicular manslaughter charged levied against me since the incident, as the investigation shows, doesn't warrant a strong case for it. And if I were, a decent defense attorney would easily get that shit reduced or thrown out.

[Mr.SugarSkulls]

Originally Posted by fecurtis

Don't care much for one another? Why's that? Because clearly I keep proving you haven't a single clue what you're talking about?

Here's the full context of that quote you showed:

Emphasis mine.

And I dunno what you were trying to convey with the second photo since it's only a fraction of a paragraph. I suppose intellectual discourse isn't quite you're thing:

But yeah I'd give up too if I were you, your argument that smoking a cigarette warrants a vehicular manslaughter charge won't get you very far with sounding like someone who knows what they're talking about.

Smoking IS a big factor when an accident happens- so tell me- those hands free tickets friends of mine have received for smoking while driving, was it just because? Are they made up tickets? Because the ticket attached with the $200 fine sure made it official.

Speeding with an ATV attached based off his trucks diagnostics would warrant the crime, or no?

Weren't you the one who said speeding warranted the crime? Or are you backtracking now?

[Mr.SugarSkulls]

Originally Posted by fecurtis

Don't care much for one another? Why's that? Because clearly I keep proving you haven't a single clue what you're talking about?

Here's the full context of that quote you showed:

Emphasis mine.

And I dunno what you were trying to convey with the second photo since it's only a fraction of a paragraph. I suppose intellectual discourse isn't quite you're thing:

But yeah I'd give up too if I were you, your argument that smoking a cigarette warrants a vehicular manslaughter charge won't get you very far with sounding like someone who knows what they're talking about.

If I were to have the exact same thing happen to me, I would NOT have a vehicular manslaughter charged levied against me since the incident, as the investigation shows, doesn't warrant a strong case for it. And if I were, a decent defense attorney would easily get that shit reduced or thrown out.

Oh and another thing, insulting my intelligence. That's cute.

Must be real nice knowing that at only 26 years old, considering "intellectual discourse may not be my thing"- is still more successful than you'll ever be.


Oh but God bless you too

[Templar]

This is pretty funny.

[fecurtis]

Originally Posted by Mr.SugarSkulls

Smoking IS a big factor when an accident happens- so tell me- those hands free tickets friends of mine have received for smoking while driving, was it just because? Are they made up tickets? Because the ticket attached with the $200 fine sure made it official.

Speeding with an ATV attached based off his trucks diagnostics would warrant the crime, or no?

Weren't you the one who said speeding warranted the crime? Or are you backtracking now?

Either you're making that up, or they got the tickets for throwing cigarettes onto the roadway/shoulder, which is illegal. And/or they were smoking with a minor in the vehicle.

And the source you showed is bogus, all preliminary reports have showed that he wasn't speeding. If he were speeding, then yes that provides a stronger case for vehicular manslaughter.

Law enforcement officials tell the site that Bruce was not speeding, was not under the influence, and he wasn’t texting at the time of the accident.

The only counts against him may be that he was following too closely or “driving at a speed that isn’t prudent given driving conditions.”

Given those stated facts from law enforcement officials, he wasn't speeding. As far as I know, the official police report summarizing and detailing the findings of their investigation hasn't been released to the public yet so the facts as currently stated could change but based on what we currently know, it's unlikely he'll face any criminal charges unless it turns out what's been reported so far turns out to be false.

[fecurtis]

Originally Posted by Mr.SugarSkulls

Oh and another thing, insulting my intelligence. That's cute.

Must be real nice knowing that at only 26 years old, considering "intellectual discourse may not be my thing"- is still more successful than you'll ever be.


Oh but God bless you too

lol you have no idea how successful or unsuccessful I am.

One thing that's obvious, you clearly aren't the brightest person since you don't seem very knowledgeable on much of anything, as well as your proclivity to contradict yourself throughout this thread.

Just goes to show though, you don't really need to be smart to make money do you? Just look at Jenner and the Kardashians. Sure as shit know you didn't become "successful" from practicing law, lol.

Like I said, best you just stop now as you clearly haven't the slightest idea what you're talking about. First it was smoking can warrant a vehicular manslaughter charge, now it's that smoking alone can give you a ticket. Lol neither of those are true, unless you throw them out of the window and/or have minors in the car with you. You should go back to your ignorant playing God nonsense, that didn't make you sound nearly as ridiculous.

[Mr.SugarSkulls]

Originally Posted by fecurtis

Either you're making that up, or they got the tickets for throwing cigarettes onto the roadway/shoulder, which is illegal. And/or they were smoking with a minor in the vehicle.

And the source you showed is bogus, all preliminary reports have showed that he wasn't speeding. If he were speeding, then yes that provides a stronger case for vehicular manslaughter.

Given those stated facts from law enforcement officials, he wasn't speeding. As far as I know, the official police report summarizing and detailing the findings of their investigation hasn't been released to the public yet so the facts as currently stated could change but based on what we currently know, it's unlikely he'll face any criminal charges unless it turns out what's been reported so far turns out to be false.

It's as if people with status and money NEVER pay off the authorities, especially in La.

God could you imagine if they did?

[Mr.SugarSkulls]

Originally Posted by fecurtis

lol you have no idea how successful or unsuccessful I am.

One thing that's obvious, you clearly aren't the brightest person since you don't seem very knowledgeable on much of anything, as well as your proclivity to contradict yourself throughout this thread.

Just goes to show though, you don't really need to be smart to make money do you?

Guess not huh?

Fine by me- let me go wipe my tears away with my next royalty check.

[fecurtis]

Originally Posted by Mr.SugarSkulls

It's as if people with status and money NEVER pay off the authorities, especially in La.

God could you imagine if they did?

Lol now it's bribery. Maybe next up you can conjure up some massive conspiracy theory.

Shouldn't be surprised, someone ignorant enough to play the "playing God" card would make these other ridiculous claims.

Don't spend the royalty check all in one place.

[ShocknAwe]

Originally Posted by Mr.SugarSkulls

Well if there's no need for my personal attention why bother wasting all that time when you seem to be the one confused with the medical term of what Bruce Jenner is actually doing?

He's not having sex reassignment. He's having gender reassignment. You aren't taking the time actually look the procedure up. I'm not the one calling it "gender reassignment". That's the medical procedure being taken.

Look it up. Or here I'll help you.


And I never said my assertions weren't from a religious stand point? Where did I ever state that? I'm a proud catholic and while I don't agree with some of their practices- most I do.

Whether or not I agree with this, is beyond me. It's my duty as an imperfect human being to treat others with the upmost respect no matter how much I disagree with their decisions as I'm sure others disagree with mine

But just because those of you who don't have a spiritual guidance in your life feel I'm wrong because of a faith I have- doesn't make you anymore right. Your argument is "I don't believe what I can't see".

If that's the case- then what does that mean in regards to Bruce Jenner? He "felt" he was a woman. But there's no proof of that now is there? So...it's all made up just like my faith in God, right?

Thanks for running from the question again. You do a nice job of it. The point of the question was whether breast augmentation was acceptable to you. You sure you're not a politician?

I am not going to discuss your religious beliefs with you, or mine. By the way, I never disclosed my beliefs, so put that assumption back in your pocket.

Just because it is called gender reassignment doesn't mean that is what they are doing. There are lots of procedures that are fallaciously named. Just shows how uneducated you are about the whole deal. If you don't understand what is being done or the hard science behind it, anything you spout is frivolous.

Glad to see you fell back on religious belief and personally opining again though. Psychology is as unconfirmed as Religion? As in it only exists in belief? Nice rock you have there. Guess we'll see you poke your head out from under it next time you see something that clashes with your religious values.

[Mr.SugarSkulls]

Originally Posted by fecurtis

Lol now it's bribery. Maybe next up you can conjure up some massive conspiracy theory.

Shouldn't be surprised, someone ignorant enough to play the "playing God" card would make these other ridiculous claims.

Don't spend the royalty check all in one place.

Yeah there you go. Keep generalizing and stereotyping me based off my religious beliefs and because I simply practice/abide by the letter of the law in my state.

Live here for a year and then feel free to chime in.

Oh and don't worry about how I spend my money. You don't have multiple streams of income + residual cash flow+ income properties by splurging. Thanks for your concern though!

[Mr.SugarSkulls]

Originally Posted by ShocknAwe

Thanks for running from the question again. You do a nice job of it. The point of the question was whether breast augmentation was acceptable to you. You sure you're not a politician?

I am not going to discuss your religious beliefs with you, or mine. By the way, I never disclosed my beliefs, so put that assumption back in your pocket.

Just because it is called gender reassignment doesn't mean that is what they are doing. There are lots of procedures that are fallaciously named. Just shows how uneducated you are about the whole deal. If you don't understand what is being done or the hard science behind it, anything you spout is frivolous.

Glad to see you fell back on religious belief and personally opining again though. Psychology is as unconfirmed as Religion? As in it only exists in belief? Nice rock you have there. Guess we'll see you poke your head out from under it next time you see something that clashes with your religious values.

To answer your question directly, no personally I don't find it ok but just like in the Bruce Jenner situation, I'm not going to condemn someone for doing something that I don't agree with.

I'm able to accept that an individual isn't necessarily a bad person just because I don't agree with something they do

[fecurtis]

Originally Posted by Mr.SugarSkulls

Oh and don't worry about how I spend my money. You don't have multiple streams of income + residual cash flow+ income properties by splurging. Thanks for your concern though!

I don't?

Weird, my stock portfolio disagrees with you. I don't live in one of the wealthiest jurisdictions in the country because I don't make any money. This is a BMW forum, most of us do well for ourselves while at the same time not sounding like a complete moron.

You can brag about your cash flow all you want. Still doesn't change the fact that you're a complete moron who dodges questions when people call you out on your idiocy.

I have as much of a desire to live in Southern Cali (most people I've met who live there seem about as bright as you) as I have the urge to drink my own piss.

[fecurtis]

Originally Posted by Mr.SugarSkulls

I'm able to accept that an individual isn't necessarily a bad person just because I don't agree with something they do

Lol nope, just call them a murderer who bribed police right?

That's more reasonable I guess.

[Mr.SugarSkulls]

Originally Posted by fecurtis

I don't?

Weird, my stock portfolio disagrees with you. I don't live in one of the wealthiest jurisdictions in the country because I don't make any money. This is a BMW forum, most of us do well for ourselves while at the same time not sounding like a complete moron.

You can brag about your cash flow all you want. Still doesn't change the fact that you're a complete moron who dodges questions when people call you out on your idiocy.

Hahahahaha a stock portfolio...what a joke.

I don't know what's worse, that I'm a complete "moron" who dodges questions maybe because I'm tired of wasting my time with you- or being a wanna be know it all prick out of VA who is still less successful than that "complete moron" he speaks of.
Keep editing, keep generalizing. Try formulating your thoughts all at once.

Either way- it was nice chatting.. I'm sure it won't be the last.
Vaya con Dios.

[fecurtis]

Originally Posted by Mr.SugarSkulls

Hahahahaha a stock portfolio...what a joke.

Lol if you say so, didn't realize trading shares was for poor folk. Who knew buying Tesla shares at $30/share and selling them for close to $300 was a poor ROI. Maybe you can lend me some pointers.

In any case, doesn't matter how much money you make, money can't buy you any common sense or intelligence.

I'm not the first one to call you out on your idiocy and hypocrisy in this thread, maybe you can back peddle and brag about how much money you make to them as if that compensates for anything.

You clearly aren't avoiding my questions because you "don't want to waste time", you're doing it because you're not smart enough to give coherent, consistent responses. Since you clearly have time to spout off about your money like the typical Southern Cali tactless person.

[dreamingat30fps]

Ok boys, pull em out. bimmette bring the measuring tape!

[fecurtis]

Originally Posted by dreamingat30fps

Ok boys, pull em out. bimmette bring the measuring tape!

"Ok shake your dicks, this pissing contest is over"

[bimmette]

Originally Posted by dreamingat30fps

Ok boys, pull em out. bimmette bring the measuring tape!

[Delta0311]

Originally Posted by Mr.SugarSkulls

With you 1000%

What's even more troubling is that a lot of the public is applauding this act of playing God.

Because half of the public is just a bunch of retarded sheep that go along with what ever seems to be "hip and in", no matter how fucked up it really is.