[F30lolz]

Originally Posted by Murf993

Anyway Mr. DMX got a mitt full of coupons and almost got arrested when I towed the car. He wasn't very happy.

Just curious, why wasn’t he arrested? Now that would have been a great example but I fear if I did what he did I would have been arrested. Not trying to throw rocks here, just trying to understand.

[Murf993]

Originally Posted by F30lolz

Just curious, why wasn’t he arrested? Now that would have been a great example but I fear if I did what he did I would have been arrested. Not trying to throw rocks here, just trying to understand.

His driving didn't make the threshold for criminal offences, I recall issuing him a number of offences under the HTA, Ontario has a reciprocal agreement with most states including NY so there was no reason to detain him for that. And although he failed the attitude test when the car was towed he didn't cross the line. It was made clear that getting arrested would mean detention for a few days as he didn't have a Canadian address. His crew were much closer to getting to stay with us. I can be very diplomatic though.

[F30lolz]

Have you ever let this slide? Asking for an enemy.

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by F30lolz

Have you ever let this slide? Asking for an enemy.

What's the violation?

[Buug959]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

What's the violation?

No valid registration?

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by LemansE90335xi

No valid registration?

Depending on the circumstances I would leave it alone, but some other officer/deputy might tow it.

[Buug959]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

Depending on the circumstances I would leave it alone, but some over officer/deputy might tow it.

Does driving an unregistered vehicle void you're insurance? I mean if it does then this car is going to be on the road unregistered and uninsured for over a month. That's quite a gamble for even a very good and cautious driver because so many other drivers are not good or cautious.

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by LemansE90335xi

Does driving an unregistered vehicle void you're insurance? I mean if it does then this car is going to be on the road unregistered and uninsured for over a month. That's quite a gamble for even a very good and cautious driver because so many other drivers are not good or cautious.

Not at all. You'll be fine. Put the car into PNO (...planned not operation) status until you're ready to pay it.

[335dlci]

As someone who has had there ccw in California, what is your recommended dialog/approach to the officer when getting pulled over or interacting with LE? I have taken a ccw classes and they tend to say the same thing, but whats an actual officer's opinion?

[Fly320s]

Originally Posted by 335dlci

As someone who has had there ccw in California, what is your recommended dialog/approach to the officer when getting pulled over or interacting with LE? I have taken a ccw classes and they tend to say the same thing, but whats an actual officer's opinion?

Does California have a requirement to notify the officer?

[upstatedoc]

Originally Posted by Fly320s

Does California have a requirement to notify the officer?

Doesn't look like California is on the list

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by 335dlci

As someone who has had there ccw in California, what is your recommended dialog/approach to the officer when getting pulled over or interacting with LE? I have taken a ccw classes and they tend to say the same thing, but whats an actual officer's opinion?

ALWAYS disclose!!! I had a CCW in California a few years before I ever became a cop. Disclosure to an officer is not a big deal.

Listen, do not follow the advice of people who tell you not to disclose. As LEO's, we can pull you out of the vehicle at any time and for any reason (...or no reason at all). If you don't disclose and I decide to remove you from the vehicle and search you......and I feel a gun, it's going to be a bad day for you until things get sorted out. It's not worth the hassle.

Originally Posted by Fly320s

Does California have a requirement to notify the officer?

Originally Posted by upstatedoc

Doesn't look like California is on the list

It is recommended to notify.

[F30lolz]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

As LEO's, we can pull you out of the vehicle at any time and for any reason (...or no reason at all)

How often are you encountered with drivers who record but who also argue/deny to show ID, exit the vehicle and say/ask the following:

What did I do?
For what reason?
I didn’t do anything wrong!!
Call your supervisor!!

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by F30lolz

How often are you encountered with drivers who record but who also argue/deny to show ID, exit the vehicle and say/ask the following:

What did I do?
For what reason?
I didn't do anything wrong!!
Call your supervisor!!

Well here's the thing......



....they can record all they want, but they won't have their phone in their hands pointing it in my direction. I can articulate in court gun phones, etc. They won't win that one.

Also, if a person refuses to provide identification, refuses to exit the vehicle, requests a supervisor, etc., they are going to jail for my trouble.

I don't encounter a lot of push back. I have quite a bit of command presence on a traffic stop. I can count on one hand the number of times a person has requested a supervisor. I wear a body cam, so that shuts down a lot of the bullshit.

[Sedan_Clan]

Sad loss of life. Better tactics might've saved this officer's life.

[bayarea328xit]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

Sad loss of life. Better tactics might've saved this officer's life.

Crazy and very sad. RIP.

I think it is awful that some people forget that there are many individuals who are willing to: (1) put themselves in harms way, (2) deal with people at their worst, and (3) help those in need. Instead, those people choose to focus on, what I firmly believe, are the outliers.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

Sad loss of life. Better tactics might've saved this officer's life.

The killer was so quick shooting the officer in the head, had no chance and no reason to believe he was in danger stopping him about legality of tint windows and check reg papers.
Thank goodness the nutter was terminated before killing someone else.

[Littlebear]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

The killer was so quick shooting the officer in the head, had no chance and no reason to believe he was in danger stopping him about legality of tint windows and check reg papers.
Thank goodness the nutter was terminated before killing someone else.

The poor cop had no chance.
I wonder how many guns the perp owns?

Murf

[Fly320s]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

Sad loss of life. Better tactics might've saved this officer's life.

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The responding officers had good tactics: got the vehicle stopped, started shooting, went prone under the car and stopped the murderer.

[Fly320s]

Originally Posted by Littlebear

I wonder how many guns the perp owns?

Murf

Why do you wonder that?

[Littlebear]

Originally Posted by Fly320s

Why do you wonder that?

He seems this far away |>| from being a mass murderer.

[Fly320s]

Originally Posted by Littlebear

He seems this far away |>| from being a mass murderer.

But he isn't! "He's dead, Jim."

Besides, one only needs one gun to commit mass murder; an old revolver would do the trick. Or one car. Or one barrel of homemade AnFO.