[oc24]

I'll just run through my date from last night. I am curious how different guys and girls perceive my tactics/actions. I'm always up for learning and taking criticism. I can also give my thought process behind my actions if interested.

Girl left voicemail around 8pm. Called her back when I got out of the gym at 9pm, told her to come over but dress casual as I can only hang out for a couple of hours. Showered, got dressed nice, she came over. I have a dog so my dog went nuts barking at her, I told her it was because she was evil. The Laker game was in overtime so I said let's watch this then go.

Game ended, we left to go down to Newport and walk by the beach. Got some comments on the E90 obviously and she was intrigued by the whole Euro Delivery. Parked, walked along the pier for awhile, all the time busting her balls and calling her out on her comments, etc. She called me a jerk so I asked would you like me to stop and she said no. I continued busting her chops.

We came back to my place, made some drinks and chit chatted about random things. Note that not once did I touch her, at all, yet. We sat on the couch and I leaned away from her the whole time. After about 15 minutes I just told her to come here and she did. Cuddled up against me for a bit, etc. She asked if I cleaned the house to impress her, and I said no as I have no desire to impress her. She kinda made a face and said why the hell not, blah blah. Wanting to quiet her down, I just grabbed her and made out with her (worked like a charm).

Then, the best move in the book. We were talking about movies and asked her if she has seen Alfie. She said no, I said well you should let's watch it. After she agreed I got up and she asked what I was doing - I said well the DVD player downstairs doesn't work so we'll have to watch it in my room. The DVD player obviously works downstairs.

We got through 2 minutes of Alfie in my room before some I guess she was a bit of a good girl, as she stopped my progressions after a point. Respectable.

Thoughts/comments?

[oc24]

PS. I am writing this out for these reasons:

a) I am very bored at work, and lack motivation.
b) I tried everything last night that I usually don't and with great success, I've never been that smooth or had it go that smoothly
c) I'm starting to really believe some of these new beliefs when it comes to dating.

[Squawks]

Hey, man - sounds smooth to me, you playa! Keep that game rollin' and it's always good to play "hard to get" when you know you want some!

[shimshimhada]

There was just one critical element missing from that date: rohypnol.

[ksfrogman]

Hope she doesn't read this thread.

[E36_325i]

Impressive

She was obviously digging you. If she would have gone all the way on the first date I would say ditch her. But she didnt, so call her again.

[vladinecko]

i never make the first move when i really like the chick. if it's at a wrong time or undesirable, it can screw shit up and when i really like the girl, i don't want that to happen. so i let her to take the first step or wait for her to give me obvious hints for either "yes, come kiss me" or "no, i'll just wait till you get tired of this and leave me alone."

[oc24]

What I learned, over some time, is to act disinterested and make her chase you. It works wonders.

[vladinecko]

Originally Posted by slubu

What I learned, over some time, is to act disinterested and make her chase you. It works wonders.

yes, i've heard that many times. girls like challenge. they need to have that first positive spark towards you for that technique to be successful. if a girl is not interested from the beginning, you can be an asshole to her all you want, it will just separate you from her that much more.

[vladinecko]

Originally Posted by shimshimhada

There was just one critical element missing from that date: rohypnol.

[oc24]

Originally Posted by vladinecko

yes, i've heard that many times. girls like challenge. they need to have that first positive spark towards you for that technique to be successful. if a girl is not interested from the beginning, you can be an asshole to her all you want, it will just separate you from her that much more.

attraction is not a choice. it can be built. i've actually seen it happen several times and if you read through some evolutionary psychology books you can see how females tend to have triggers to certain actions that build attraction.

[shragon]

hahaha, sounded pretty smooth. just hope she doesn't read this.

[oc24]

Originally Posted by shragon

hahaha, sounded pretty smooth. just hope she doesn't read this.

chances of the same exact girl i went out with last night being on this board are very slim, no?

[Matbrach]

Why would any girl want to hang around someone who made them feel inferior or insignificant unless they have some self esteem issues?

[deutschmann59]

Originally Posted by Matbrach

Why would any girl want to hang around someone who made them feel inferior or insignificant unless they have some self esteem issues?

I think it's more about showing her you aren't overly interested...you aren't desperate. I don't think she'd take it as you calling her inferior...it's more of a cat and mouse chase--it adds zest to the chase!

[oc24]

Originally Posted by Matbrach

Why would any girl want to hang around someone who made them feel inferior or insignificant unless they have some self esteem issues?

Being confident in yourself and calling her out when she is acting bratty does not equate to making someone feel inferior.

[RedStripe]

Originally Posted by RedStripe

In fact, I know it sounds odd, but the worse you treat her (to a degree), the more she'll want you.

Originally Posted by RedStripe

I'd probably have to know who you are to give you some more decent advice... but all I can say is, if you want her to be eating out of the palm of your hand... you have to learn to be a little cruel and selfish. They love that.... even though they'll never admit it. It's so true. Ok, I'll stop now.

From me earlier, you might want to read this thread for a somewhat similar post like yours: http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13636

[geeslice]

IMHO, I don't think any of that was smooth. It was smooth if all you were looking for was some

If you like the girl you gotta treat her nice. And if she's into you for "calling her out" and "busting her chops" on a first date she's got more issues than I choose to address but those will cause problems for you... if she likes that and comes back for me she will chase you because she is desperate.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying she's a bad person but I wouldn't be suprised if she's got some baggage that you don't know about. I would proceed with caution.

Oh and the DVD line... I've heard that one but never taken the bait. Girls know that line...

[m666]

Originally Posted by Matbrach

Why would any girl want to hang around someone who made them feel inferior or insignificant unless they have some self esteem issues?

Girls do this all the time, they fall for this tactic. I'm sure some girls here will disagree with me, but girls like being with someone who is confident and sadly, some dudes talk like this guy to elevate himself. Like putting someone down to make yourself look better. It's weak, but it works.

Anyway back to this dude- what do you want, a cookie?

new beliefs when it comes to dating.

lol, "NEW" huh? What a trailblazer you are.....

I don't argee with everything Tom Leykis says, but he's been advocating this stuff for the past 10 years.

[E90-4life]

Way to fuck w/ a girls emotions. It's emo gilrls like the one this dudes hooking up w that get stuck on guys w/ no code of ethics in dealing w/ relationships. Nice work at a booty call.

EDIT: If you like girls, this is the way to go. If you want a woman, this will never work.

[Flyingfart]

From the quick read I did, I can say you're a jerk! and a smack for a date!

you called a girl evil and continually bust her chops!
she got even with you! at the end thinking you are going to make out
and left you with your D*ck hanging!

if you want to be successful in dating, I suggest treating your dates like your sisters, and the rest of the game will follow.

Ive seen a movie once "All About Mary" the guys advice to be a better date is to jerk off, yes! thats the one !, before you go out on a date so that your D*ck doesnt do the thinking and talking for you.

Try it! it might surprise you, better yet! do it twice, so to be sure it works.

sorry its IMHO of course!

Originally Posted by slubu

I'll just run through my date from last night. I am curious how different guys and girls perceive my tactics/actions. I'm always up for learning and taking criticism. I can also give my thought process behind my actions if interested.

Girl left voicemail around 8pm. Called her back when I got out of the gym at 9pm, told her to come over but dress casual as I can only hang out for a couple of hours. Showered, got dressed nice, she came over. I have a dog so my dog went nuts barking at her, I told her it was because she was evil. The Laker game was in overtime so I said let's watch this then go.

Game ended, we left to go down to Newport and walk by the beach. Got some comments on the E90 obviously and she was intrigued by the whole Euro Delivery. Parked, walked along the pier for awhile, all the time busting her balls and calling her out on her comments, etc. She called me a jerk so I asked would you like me to stop and she said no. I continued busting her chops.

We came back to my place, made some drinks and chit chatted about random things. Note that not once did I touch her, at all, yet. We sat on the couch and I leaned away from her the whole time. After about 15 minutes I just told her to come here and she did. Cuddled up against me for a bit, etc. She asked if I cleaned the house to impress her, and I said no as I have no desire to impress her. She kinda made a face and said why the hell not, blah blah. Wanting to quiet her down, I just grabbed her and made out with her (worked like a charm).

Then, the best move in the book. We were talking about movies and asked her if she has seen Alfie. She said no, I said well you should let's watch it. After she agreed I got up and she asked what I was doing - I said well the DVD player downstairs doesn't work so we'll have to watch it in my room. The DVD player obviously works downstairs.

We got through 2 minutes of Alfie in my room before some I guess she was a bit of a good girl, as she stopped my progressions after a point. Respectable.

Thoughts/comments?

[thedean786]

Further proof that no matter how much a girl claims she wants a nice guy in the end they like the ones who push them around....