Is the competition worth the $9,000 over ?

M4Ghost · 08-10-2021, 11:31 AM

Just curious your thoughts as to why, or why didn't you order the Comp

DanG · 08-10-2021, 01:00 PM

Comp wasn’t available when I bought my M2.

Vivek. · 08-10-2021, 01:07 PM

I think it comes down to 2 main factors (assuming you're talking G8x):
-do you want 6MT or are you okay with auto
-how much do you care about saying you have the "competition"

The power difference is minor and can be made up in a $500 tune

M4Ghost · 08-10-2021, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Vivek.

I think it comes down to 2 main factors (assuming you're talking G8x):
-do you want 6MT or are you okay with auto
-how much do you care about saying you have the "competition"

The power difference is minor and can be made up in a $500 tune

Sorry for X5m & x6m

Fritzer · 08-10-2021, 03:42 PM

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Sorry for X5m & x6m

Certainly not then, unless there is a major option that you can get on the competition that you cannot get on the non-competition car(like preferred interior color, etc), I know some options are specific. The comp and non-comp are virtually identical when it comes to mechanics, you can get more power than a stock competition package car with a simple tune.

Darth One · 08-10-2021, 04:00 PM

I think for a lot of folks, it's not really a matter of $9000 more, but a few more bucks on the lease payment to drive the top trim (sort of). I think that makes the decision more palatable

DanG · 08-10-2021, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Fritzer

Certainly not then, unless there is a major option that you can get on the competition that you cannot get on the non-competition car(like preferred interior color, etc), I know some options are specific. The comp and non-comp are virtually identical when it comes to mechanics, you can get more power than a stock competition package car with a simple tune.

New BMWs have a locked ecu. You can’t tune them.

IllSic_Design · 08-10-2021, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by DanG

New BMWs have a locked ecu. You can’t tune them.

Nonsense, they have already been able to flash G80/82's

DanG · 08-10-2021, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by IllSic_Design

Nonsense, they have already been able to flash G80/82's

Hmm. They haven’t cracked M2C/CS ecu yet.

IllSic_Design · 08-10-2021, 08:28 PM

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Hmm. They haven’t cracked M2C/CS ecu yet.

Mission performance unlocked the new DME's for the Supra and G80/82

I think no one really put any effort into the newest S55 DME because it came at the end of the F8x lifecycle and I guess not that many M2c/cs owners are worth the effort, since the B/S58 DME is the new thing.

BobsM3Coupe · 08-10-2021, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Vivek.

The power difference is minor and can be made up in a $500 tune

Which will void the powertrain warranty.

Cyn-BMW · 08-10-2021, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by BobsM3Coupe

Which will void the powertrain warranty.

No it won’t. Read the laws in the USA regarding this. I’ve done it and haven’t had a problem. The one time I was questioned, I supplied them with a copy of the law and my attorneys phone number. Know your rights and exercise them.

DanG · 08-10-2021, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by IllSic_Design

Mission performance unlocked the new DME's for the Supra and G80/82

I think no one really put any effort into the newest S55 DME because it came at the end of the F8x lifecycle and I guess not that many M2c/cs owners are worth the effort, since the B/S58 DME is the new thing.

But they will not release the unlock to the public. So there is no real way to tune a current BMW.

IllSic_Design · 08-10-2021, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by DanG

But they will not release the unlock to the public. So there is no real way to tune a current BMW.

Didn't know that, but if one company has it figured out it is only a matter of time until another person/company does also, but who knows.

Patton250 · 08-10-2021, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Cyn-BMW

No it won’t. Read the laws in the USA regarding this. I’ve done it and haven’t had a problem. The one time I was questioned, I supplied them with a copy of the law and my attorneys phone number. Know your rights and exercise them.

Oh boy. Here we go.

Cyn-BMW · 08-10-2021, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Patton250

Oh boy. Here we go.

There are laws in the USA that protect us. Read them, learn them, live them!

Fritzer · 08-10-2021, 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by DanG

New BMWs have a locked ecu. You can’t tune them.

As they are with each new generation. And in a year or two it will be possible to tune them just like every other modern BMW.

Bimmer Pleaser · 08-11-2021, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by IllSic_Design

Mission performance unlocked the new DME's for the Supra and G80/82

I think no one really put any effort into the newest S55 DME because it came at the end of the F8x lifecycle and I guess not that many M2c/cs owners are worth the effort, since the B/S58 DME is the new thing.

Not sure about CS but there are tuned M2C.

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Originally Posted by Cyn-BMW

No it won’t. Read the laws in the USA regarding this. I’ve done it and haven’t had a problem. The one time I was questioned, I supplied them with a copy of the law and my attorneys phone number. Know your rights and exercise them.

Not saying you are wrong but then what stops people from going nuts and forcing out hundreds of HP more that an engine is designed to output? Can I tune a M340 to a M3 power level and hold BMW responsible on its warranty claim?

Steelguin · 08-11-2021, 10:25 AM

Yes, just give them your attorneys number when they deny warranty. Lmao

Cyn-BMW · 08-11-2021, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Bimmer Pleaser

Not sure about CS but there are tuned M2C.

Not saying you are wrong but then what stops people from going nuts and forcing out hundreds of HP more that an engine is designed to output? Can I tune a M340 to a M3 power level and hold BMW responsible on its warranty claim?

The law says the dealer has to prove that a modification caused the failure. Obviously, at some point, if there’s too many modifications BMW isn’t going to be responsible. Small things like a tune, exhaust, and intake aren’t going to add so much horsepower to cause a problem.

Opie55 · 08-11-2021, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Cyn-BMW

The law says the dealer has to prove that a modification caused the failure. Obviously, at some point, if there’s too many modifications BMW isn’t going to be responsible. Small things like a tune, exhaust, and intake aren’t going to add so much horsepower to cause a problem.

Can you provide a citation to this law? I'd like to read it. Is it a statue, regulation or case? State or federal?

Cyn-BMW · 08-11-2021, 07:00 PM

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Can you provide a citation to this law? I'd like to read it. Is it a statue, regulation or case? State or federal?

Magnuson–Moss Warranty Act, it covers all warranties, not just for cars. It might take a while to get through it all.

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