BMW
X1 / X2
forum
BMW Garage BMW Meets Register Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read
BIMMERPOST Universal Forums Off-Topic Discussions Board Would you let your kids go skydiving?

Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      09-01-2022, 04:02 PM   #1
WayneM3
First Lieutenant
291
Rep
363
Posts

Drives: F90M5
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: New York, NY

iTrader: (2)

Would you let your kids go skydiving?

For my daughter's 15th birthday she decided that she wanted to go skydiving and found the only place in the USA that does this so we planned a family vacation around it.

It is called Ultimate Skydiving Adventures and they allow children over 7 to skydive tandem. It is in Southwest Colorado, about a four hour drive from Denver and 40 miles from Grand Junction, in the small town of Delta. The people there are super nice and very experienced. Ben, the owner who takes the kids, has over 12,000 jumps. It was too cloudy to jump on our scheduled day so we returned on the way back from visiting Moab (a little over 2 hours away) and had a perfect day. We all went but I only bought the videos for my kids. We jumped from 7,500' (+ the 5,000' we started at). There was a freefall and then a nice, gentle coast down with the parachute. It was a blast and we all made it down safely. I highly recommend it if you, your spouse and your kids have the stomach for it.

Jessica is 12.

Elisha is 15.
Appreciate 0
      09-01-2022, 04:18 PM   #2
Watching The World Burn
Lengthy but not a Girthy Member
1355
Rep
130
Posts

Drives: 1971 Honda Civic
Join Date: Aug 2017
Location: Riding the high seas of your emotions

iTrader: (0)

Probably at their ages, yeah. At my current kids ages, no. I think 12 or older minimum.

It is pretty neat, but if you have any altitude issues with your ears, its a complete PITA. My ears didn't recover for days and it was fairly painful.
Appreciate 0
      09-01-2022, 04:44 PM   #3
DocL
Captain
DocL's Avatar
United_States
2133
Rep
960
Posts

Drives: 2018 M3 Comp 6spd
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Delray Beach

iTrader: (2)

Kids, no. Wife, yes; but without a parachute.
__________________
2018 F80 M3. YMB/BLK. ZCP. Three Pedals.
"Education will never be as expensive as ignorance."
Appreciate 10
RickFLM411978.50
Dino GT35078.00
Dpc2u11492.00
kscarrol9891.00
540iSUP726.00
allinon725076.50
stein_325i25337.00
S1nner159.00
      09-01-2022, 04:50 PM   #4
G MONEY
Lieutenant Colonel
1772
Rep
1,866
Posts

Drives: 2017 458/ YAS m4
Join Date: Jan 2022
Location: EARTH

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by DocL View Post
Kids, no. Wife, yes; but without a parachute.
Up the life insurance on them and let them fly🤪
Appreciate 0
      09-01-2022, 05:00 PM   #5
CamasM3e93
Friends don't let friends ESS
CamasM3e93's Avatar
No_Country
3949
Rep
1,022
Posts

Drives: '11 Lemans Blue 6mt Harrop e90
Join Date: Dec 2020
Location: Camas, WA

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
My 11 year old jumps horses (the horses do the jumping). I bet it's statistically more dangerous than skydiving. I've done a tandem jump and it was fairly sedate. I probably wouldn't hesitate
Appreciate 1
DrFerry7285.00
      09-03-2022, 04:23 PM   #6
3.0L
Colonel
3.0L's Avatar
11829
Rep
2,013
Posts

Drives: 2014 BMW M235i, 2024 GLC300
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: California

iTrader: (0)

We had a student working part-time in our university tech shop about 20 years ago and he told us his roommate was planning to do a tandem jump the next day. He joked that wouldn't it be something if the 'chute didn't open.

Well, something went wrong and it didn't open, nor was the reserve 'chute deployed. They "bounced" on the runway.

It was a "I can't believe this happened" moment.
__________________
2014 BMW M235i
2024 Mercedes Benz GLC300

Expert ultracrepidarian
Appreciate 1
vreihen1622384.00
      09-03-2022, 04:49 PM   #7
ezaircon4jc
Major General
ezaircon4jc's Avatar
United_States
5662
Rep
5,817
Posts

Drives: 2019 540i M Sport
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: San Diego

iTrader: (0)

There's no reason to leave a perfectly good airplane.
Appreciate 6
Esteban57608.50
Buug95924768.00
vreihen1622384.00
3.0L11829.00
540iSUP726.00
      09-03-2022, 05:10 PM   #8
Esteban
Major General
Esteban's Avatar
United_States
57609
Rep
7,241
Posts

Drives: a slow car fast
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: SoCal

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by ezaircon4jc View Post
There's no reason to leave a perfectly good airplane.
This is the only thing in this thread that makes sense to me.
Appreciate 4
Buug95924768.00
vreihen1622384.00
540iSUP726.00
KRS_SN14920.00
      09-03-2022, 06:46 PM   #9
vreihen16
Recovering Perfectionist
vreihen16's Avatar
22384
Rep
1,034
Posts

Drives: BMW-less :(
Join Date: Jun 2019
Location: Orange County, NY

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
Quote:
Originally Posted by ezaircon4jc View Post
There's no reason to leave a perfectly good airplane.
...or even a somewhat good airplane!!!!!
__________________
Currently BMW-less.
Appreciate 4
Esteban57608.50
540iSUP726.00
Buug95924768.00
      09-03-2022, 07:43 PM   #10
ryan stewart
Major
2261
Rep
1,360
Posts

Drives: 2008 328it
Join Date: Aug 2012
Location: Atlanta, GA

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by ezaircon4jc View Post
There's no reason to leave a perfectly good airplane.
That is why they always take you up in a rattely little kite.

I would, I love skydiving. And that kind of sport diving is insanely safe, its the guys pulling stunts who take the real risk. But sport chutes are amazing engineering and you have a backup usually with an AAD if needed.
Appreciate 0
      09-03-2022, 11:45 PM   #11
ezaircon4jc
Major General
ezaircon4jc's Avatar
United_States
5662
Rep
5,817
Posts

Drives: 2019 540i M Sport
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: San Diego

iTrader: (0)

When I worked SLC there was a jump zone near where the aircraft were turning towards the runway. They did a pretty good job of staying out of the way, mostly. I got the customary "one minute to jump" call and called out a Western 727 that was turning to the airport (which they said they saw) and told WA about the jumper. Mere seconds later I heard a WWWWOOOOOOOO and WA asked what just "fell" past the cockpit window! Turns out the jumper decided to go (VERY) early, right past WA! It wasn't in controlled airspace so was totally legal, just a bit unnerving for the WA pilot!
Appreciate 3
540iSUP726.00
Buug95924768.00
vreihen1622384.00
      09-04-2022, 11:24 AM   #12
3.0L
Colonel
3.0L's Avatar
11829
Rep
2,013
Posts

Drives: 2014 BMW M235i, 2024 GLC300
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: California

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by ezaircon4jc View Post
When I worked SLC there was a jump zone near where the aircraft were turning towards the runway. They did a pretty good job of staying out of the way, mostly. I got the customary "one minute to jump" call and called out a Western 727 that was turning to the airport (which they said they saw) and told WA about the jumper. Mere seconds later I heard a WWWWOOOOOOOO and WA asked what just "fell" past the cockpit window! Turns out the jumper decided to go (VERY) early, right past WA! It wasn't in controlled airspace so was totally legal, just a bit unnerving for the WA pilot!
Uncontrolled airspace does not mean unregulated. The "See & Avoid" regulation still applies.
__________________
2014 BMW M235i
2024 Mercedes Benz GLC300

Expert ultracrepidarian
Appreciate 1
      09-04-2022, 12:13 PM   #13
vreihen16
Recovering Perfectionist
vreihen16's Avatar
22384
Rep
1,034
Posts

Drives: BMW-less :(
Join Date: Jun 2019
Location: Orange County, NY

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
Quote:
Originally Posted by ryan stewart View Post
That is why they always take you up in a rattely little kite.
Our local skydiving service was permanently shut down because their airplane was unsafe. One of the inspector's reports even noted that he wouldn't fly in that bucket even *with* a parachute!

That plane did live a hard life, though. They would climb fast to get the jumpers out, and then do a powered dive back to the ground so that they would be parked and ready to take them up again before the jumpers even landed.....
__________________
Currently BMW-less.
Appreciate 1
Esteban57608.50
      09-04-2022, 04:21 PM   #14
ezaircon4jc
Major General
ezaircon4jc's Avatar
United_States
5662
Rep
5,817
Posts

Drives: 2019 540i M Sport
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: San Diego

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by 3.0L View Post
Uncontrolled airspace does not mean unregulated. The "See & Avoid" regulation still applies.
The jumper (and pilot) did see & avoid. For us, see & avoid was just don't scrape paint. See & avoid isn't an airspace regulation, it's a pilot requirement.
Appreciate 0
      09-04-2022, 04:35 PM   #15
3.0L
Colonel
3.0L's Avatar
11829
Rep
2,013
Posts

Drives: 2014 BMW M235i, 2024 GLC300
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: California

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by ezaircon4jc View Post
The jumper (and pilot) did see & avoid. For us, see & avoid was just don't scrape paint. See & avoid isn't an airspace regulation, it's a pilot requirement.
Yes, quite true. Pilots must follow regulations in all categories of airspace, including class G (uncontrolled). My understanding is uncontrolled mean that the pilot is not required to be in radio contact with ATC or a tower.
__________________
2014 BMW M235i
2024 Mercedes Benz GLC300

Expert ultracrepidarian
Appreciate 0
      09-04-2022, 06:09 PM   #16
thebmw
Post Advisor
thebmw's Avatar
1915
Rep
1,816
Posts

Drives: More Manuals than Automatics
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Illinois

iTrader: (10)

Quote:
Originally Posted by WayneM3 View Post
For my daughter's 15th birthday she decided that she wanted to go skydiving and found the only place in the USA that does this so we planned a family vacation around it.
Everyone has different risk tolerance. It could have turned out a lot different though. Injuries, both short term and long term, and death.
This 21 year old just died skydiving. I'm sure she thought everything would be fine too.

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/...154113176.html
Appreciate 0
      09-04-2022, 07:49 PM   #17
ezaircon4jc
Major General
ezaircon4jc's Avatar
United_States
5662
Rep
5,817
Posts

Drives: 2019 540i M Sport
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: San Diego

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by 3.0L View Post
Yes, quite true. Pilots must follow regulations in all categories of airspace, including class G (uncontrolled). My understanding is uncontrolled mean that the pilot is not required to be in radio contact with ATC or a tower.
True 'dat. That's where "green between" or see & avoid comes in. S&A might have been good when the fastest thing in the sky was ~100kts, but in this day & age it's wholly inadequate.

Speaking of following regs, I once asked a Singapore Airlines his speed as he was above 10K'. He said 300kts and I told him to maintain his speed, figuring when hit 10K' he'd slow to 250K as required. He didn't and was smoking over downtown LA at 300kts and 6K'! Must've been a sight
Appreciate 0
      09-04-2022, 09:23 PM   #18
3.0L
Colonel
3.0L's Avatar
11829
Rep
2,013
Posts

Drives: 2014 BMW M235i, 2024 GLC300
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: California

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by ezaircon4jc View Post
True 'dat. That's where "green between" or see & avoid comes in. S&A might have been good when the fastest thing in the sky was ~100kts, but in this day & age it's wholly inadequate.

Speaking of following regs, I once asked a Singapore Airlines his speed as he was above 10K'. He said 300kts and I told him to maintain his speed, figuring when hit 10K' he'd slow to 250K as required. He didn't and was smoking over downtown LA at 300kts and 6K'! Must've been a sight
Isn't there a reg for 250 knots max below 10,000 feet?
__________________
2014 BMW M235i
2024 Mercedes Benz GLC300

Expert ultracrepidarian
Appreciate 0
      09-04-2022, 10:20 PM   #19
ezaircon4jc
Major General
ezaircon4jc's Avatar
United_States
5662
Rep
5,817
Posts

Drives: 2019 540i M Sport
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: San Diego

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by 3.0L View Post
Isn't there a reg for 250 knots max below 10,000 feet?
Yup, that's why I thought he would slow. We are allowed to break any of the rules, so long as we have a good reason (I ALWAYS did ). I routinely told LGB departures to not be concerned about the noise sensors and climb quickly.
Appreciate 0
      09-05-2022, 09:42 AM   #20
vreihen16
Recovering Perfectionist
vreihen16's Avatar
22384
Rep
1,034
Posts

Drives: BMW-less :(
Join Date: Jun 2019
Location: Orange County, NY

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
Quote:
Originally Posted by ezaircon4jc View Post
We are allowed to break any of the rules, so long as we have a good reason (I ALWAYS did ).
Can you clear Ghostrider for a flyby?????
__________________
Currently BMW-less.
Appreciate 1
3.0L11829.00
      09-05-2022, 01:18 PM   #21
ezaircon4jc
Major General
ezaircon4jc's Avatar
United_States
5662
Rep
5,817
Posts

Drives: 2019 540i M Sport
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: San Diego

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by vreihen16 View Post
Can you clear Ghostrider for a flyby?????
Did once when I was in the Navy. An F4 went supersonic right at the ship! It was like a bomb going off! It blew the locked doors (we had a cypher lock on the doors) open! The captain thought it was....



GREAT
Appreciate 1
vreihen1622384.00
      09-05-2022, 01:36 PM   #22
Kolyan2k
Major General
981
Rep
5,555
Posts

Drives: 2006 S2000
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Boston

iTrader: (1)

It's fun, probably a good idea to do it once. Not sure I would let my kid jump.....
Appreciate 0
Post Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:23 PM.




u11
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST