[SpaceSilver.X1]

does anyone use the BMW fuel additive that comes in a little blue 3-ounce bottle?

[sspade]

Have not but use Techron in the fall and spring.

I wonder if they're all essentially the same, from a chemical composition standpoint.

[ctcarbonari]

Originally Posted by sspade

Have not but use Techron in the fall and spring.

I wonder if they're all essentially the same, from a chemical composition standpoint.

Same @ both Techron & wonder.

I'll add a bottle of Techron ~500 miles before my oil changes.

[Tambohamilton]

I use Millers diesel power ecomax (shit name!) all the time. Car runs nicer on it, and I think it gets slightly better mpg... Tried a different additive recently and thought something was wrong with the engine! Very happy that switching back to ecomax sorted it out.

[M3SQRD]

The BMW fuel additive is made by Chevron. So it’s cheaper to buy the larger bottle of Techron fuel additive for the same price or cheaper than what BMW charges.

[whyzee125]

Same stuff as Techron. I run it every once in a while.

[tturedraider]

Originally Posted by M3SQRD

The BMW fuel additive is made by Chevron. So it’s cheaper to buy the larger bottle of Techron fuel additive for the same price or cheaper than what BMW charges.

Originally Posted by whyzee125

Same stuff as Techron. I run it every once in a while.

That’s what I was thinking. Techron probably has the best reputation and gets used the most around here. Whenever I’m going on a road trip of a few hundred miles and several hours of continuous driving I put a bottle of Techron in right before I fill the tank with gas. I think it’s good to put it in then so it gets mixed well into the fuel.

[Jbrown7403]

I do this every 3000 miles. I used it in early December before a long holiday road-trip. I averaged a bit over 27 mpg for 2500 highway miles. Seems like it is doing something good.
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[M3SQRD]

Originally Posted by tturedraider

That’s what I was thinking. Techron probably has the best reputation and gets used the most around here. Whenever I’m going on a road trip of a few hundred miles and several hours of continuous driving I put a bottle of Techron in right before I fill the tank with gas. I think it’s good to put it in then so it gets mixed well into the fuel.

I do the same thing. Techron goes in before I fill up the tank for a road trip. Started doing this with my ‘00 S2000 using BG products in 2000 and continued doing this with all of the cars we’ve owned since. However, I can’t recall exactly when I switched to Techron.

[DanG]

Why not just fill up at Chevron? That is what I do.

[chowser51]

I usually toss a bottle of Techron in twice a year. I wait for a buy one get one free sale and buy a few bottles.

[M3SQRD]

Originally Posted by DanG

Why not just fill up at Chevron? That is what I do.

I can’t think of one Chevron station anywhere near me. We use Shell exclusively unless there’s an emergency low fuel situation (Shell station is 10 miles away). It rarely happens but when it does we use the Crown station (only other station is Liberty) in our small isolated town.

[SpaceSilver.X1]

Originally Posted by M3SQRD

I can’t think of one Chevron station anywhere near me. We use Shell exclusively unless there’s an emergency low fuel situation (Shell station is 10 miles away). It rarely happens but when it does we use the Crown station (only other station is Liberty) in our small isolated town.

Chevron close over a thousand stations back in 2010. My area lost all of its Chevron stations, including one that was just a couple of miles from me.(which later became a Sunoco)

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/exit-st...ions-out-east/
"Following the review of its U.S. portfolio, Chevron decided to withdraw its motor fuels operations in some areas of the Eastern United States. As a result, approximately 1,100 independently owned and operated retail convenience store stations will be de-branded."

[MadBullogna]

Snake oil, unless existing issues after xxxx mileage. Same as any modern non-carb’d engine. Same folks that use similar crap, IMO, are the same that refuse to acknowledge all top-tier fuel comes from the same plant in the same truck, while loudly yelling, “but, but, they put magical additives in ‘their’ fuels”, (yet don’t do basic OA?). I’ll stick to H‑E‑B, Costco, Sam’s Club, AM/PM, as I have for forty years of driving, and will only consider any form of fuel injector cleaning upon an issue arising. Across multiple brands/engines & multiple 80-100k+ runs, never had a single issue. BMW engines are no different. (There’s a reason no manufacturer actually recommends anything, only stealerships, conveniently not covered either). 98% of the time it’s a money grab. To each their own though, hell, I follow 5-7k OCIs with routine oil analysis, so, yea. We can all spend where we deem it useful. /shrug.

[tturedraider]

Originally Posted by MadBullogna

Snake oil, unless existing issues after xxxx mileage. Same as any modern non-carb’d engine. Same folks that use similar crap, IMO, are the same that refuse to acknowledge all top-tier fuel comes from the same plant in the same truck, while loudly yelling, “but, but, they put magical additives in ‘their’ fuels”, (yet don’t do basic OA?). I’ll stick to H‑E‑B, Costco, Sam’s Club, AM/PM, as I have for forty years of driving, and will only consider any form of fuel injector cleaning upon an issue arising. Across multiple brands/engines & multiple 80-100k+ runs, never had a single issue. BMW engines are no different. (There’s a reason no manufacturer actually recommends anything, only stealerships, conveniently not covered either). 98% of the time it’s a money grab. To each their own though, hell, I follow 5-7k OCIs with routine oil analysis, so, yea. We can all spend where we deem it useful. /shrug.

Or maybe they do

[MadBullogna]

There’s nothing in that bulletin about BS aftermarket additives. It clearly states to prioritize the usage of Top/Tier fuel, (as most manufacturers have done for two decades). Not sure what you think you’re disproving or proving?

[tturedraider]

Originally Posted by MadBullogna

There’s nothing in that bulletin about BS aftermarket additives. It clearly states to prioritize the usage of Top/Tier fuel, (as most manufacturers have done for two decades). Not sure what you think you’re disproving or proving?

You talked about using all kinds of gas, most of it not top tier, and then said, “no manufacturer actually recommends anything…”, leaving the impression you are of the opinion BMW makes no recommendation regarding top tier gas and they clearly do.

[MadBullogna]

Try reading again, as that’s clearly not what was said. What was said was people refuse to acknowledge fuel comes from the same place, (ask anyone who lives near a storage plant and watches the delivery trucks come & go to the various ‘name brand’ stations), and while virtually all of it meets the definition of ‘top tier’, (which is a whole nother can of BS marketing), people refuse to admit there’s no proven difference between any of the majority brands. (Ie; Chevron vs Shell vs Exxon bullsheat). And every fuel retailer I mentioned does meet those BS ‘recommendations’, you just may not be familiar with all of them, (which admittedly could be regional).

My argument is about the snake oil of unnecessary additives, and was quite clear on that, albeit many choose to believe a BMW engine is more advanced than any other, thus requiring it, when it’s clearly an excuse of a money grab, (again, hence why not a single manufacturer to my knowledge recommends nor requires such), in 95% of circumstances for the normal life of an engine.
If others want to believe otherwise, that’s their performative, as I also stated.

E; imo, a better use of money to ensure future reliability would be a routine Oil Analysis, (which oddly so many are anti), as well as an occasional scope every ~25-35k miles. But, that makes sense, so, /shrug.

[tturedraider]

Originally Posted by MadBullogna

Try reading again, as that’s clearly not what was said. What was said was people refuse to acknowledge fuel comes from the same place, (ask anyone who lives near a storage plant and watches the delivery trucks come & go to the various ‘name brand’ stations), and while virtually all of it meets the definition of ‘top tier’, (which is a whole nother can of BS marketing), people refuse to admit there’s no proven difference between any of the majority brands. (Ie; Chevron vs Shell vs Exxon bullsheat). And every fuel retailer I mentioned does meet those BS ‘recommendations’, you just may not be familiar with all of them, (which admittedly could be regional).

My argument is about the snake oil of unnecessary additives, and was quite clear on that, albeit many choose to believe a BMW engine is more advanced than any other, thus requiring it, when it’s clearly an excuse of a money grab, (again, hence why not a single manufacturer to my knowledge recommends nor requires such), in 95% of circumstances for the normal life of an engine.
If others want to believe otherwise, that’s their performative, as I also stated.

E; imo, a better use of money to ensure future reliability would be a routine Oil Analysis, (which oddly so many are anti), as well as an occasional scope every ~25-35k miles. But, that makes sense, so, /shrug.

Of all the brands you mentioned you use only Costco is listed on the Top Tier Gas website as being a Top Tier gas. But you go right ahead believe whatever makes you happy.
https://www.toptiergas.com/gasoline-brands/

Good bye

[sspade]

This guy thinks Top Tier Gas is a scam and fuel additive packages aren’t real because fuel trucks fill up at common refineries —> MadBullogna

Gotta love the ignorance, forty years worth and counting!

[MadBullogna]

Originally Posted by sspade

Gotta love the ignorance, forty years worth and counting!

Gotta love those with a lack of reading comprehension skills and love being internet warriors. Just as the poster immediately above you, claiming only one of the brands of fuel I randomly tossed out was ‘top tier’, (despite his own link proving him wrong, as AM/PM - which is Arco, Chevron, Exxon, Shell, etc are all clearly listed).

There are those who read something on bobistheoilguy or some crap, and will forever defend an insane position, and those who choose to not believe marketing hype and ‘sponsored’ programs like Top Tier, or not to use dealer/manufacturer oil, instead opting to perform routine OA or FA on their own vehicles. I’ll opt for the later, as I don’t like being a sheep.

This thread is as useful as a “What brand of oil is best” thread.

[eugenebmw]

I was surprised that nobody suggest "Italian tune up" Bring your cars to the highway and enjoy the rush......