[AmuroRay]

I don't know how, or why - but I want a LSX powered car. Something old school with modern tech - like AC and ABS.

I used to think I would never be a lover of a high displacement lower RPM - I considered them "low tech" but watching a guy - Richard Holdener on youtube made me change my mind. There is a LS option for anyone - if you like Revs, Torque, a good middle ground or boost. They just do everything well, and they look friendly enough to work on.

Besides, what other engines have mods with cool names like "Truck Norris cams" Or "Chopercobra"

I'd love to have an E30/36 or 240SX with an LS powered V8. It's compact, light makes excellent power - what is there not to like?

[BlkGS]

LS motors, and the LT that proceeded it are basically the pinnacle of automotive engineering. They're great on gas, simple, toms.of aftermarket make big power, super reliable, parts are plentiful and cheap... They're basically everything that BMW engines aren't lol.

The value in like, a C6 Corvette is unbeatable. If you need a backseat, a GRO or Camaro SS. 4 doors? CTSV, Chevy SS, or build basically any GM truck or SUV with a V8. The truck 5.3 shares a lot of DNA with an LS1/2/3 in a Vette.

If you want something small and light, get a Saturn sky and LS swap it. They fit in nicely.

[AmuroRay]

Originally Posted by BlkGS

LS motors, and the LT that proceeded it are basically the pinnacle of automotive engineering. They're great on gas, simple, toms.of aftermarket make big power, super reliable, parts are plentiful and cheap... They're basically everything that BMW engines aren't lol.

The value in like, a C6 Corvette is unbeatable. If you need a backseat, a GRO or Camaro SS. 4 doors? CTSV, Chevy SS, or build basically any GM truck or SUV with a V8. The truck 5.3 shares a lot of DNA with an LS1/2/3 in a Vette.

If you want something small and light, get a Saturn sky and LS swap it. They fit in nicely.

They literally are - I was a fool for disregarding them for so long. Now I need a 4 door with a backseat and a manual. Are the SSs still around?

[Efthreeoh]

I have the LH8 in my Hummer H3T. Great engine. Smooth, powerful for its weight class, and not a lick of problems for 102,000 miles. If it could get rid of the L460 it's bolted to, that would be bliss.

[x622]

Originally Posted by BlkGS

LS motors, and the LT that proceeded it are basically the pinnacle of automotive engineering. They're great on gas, simple, toms.of aftermarket make big power, super reliable, parts are plentiful and cheap... They're basically everything that BMW engines aren't lol.

The value in like, a C6 Corvette is unbeatable. If you need a backseat, a GRO or Camaro SS. 4 doors? CTSV, Chevy SS, or build basically any GM truck or SUV with a V8. The truck 5.3 shares a lot of DNA with an LS1/2/3 in a Vette.

If you want something small and light, get a Saturn sky and LS swap it. They fit in nicely.

Big no on the Sky there. Parts for that car are rare and hard to find because nobody really makes suspension or stuff for it.

Now drop a ls in a s2000 and now we're cooking

[AmuroRay]

Originally Posted by x622

Big no on the Sky there. Parts for that car are rare and hard to find because nobody really makes suspension or stuff for it.

Now drop a ls in a s2000 and now we're cooking

Well Mr. McLaren - I see you have a AP2. Make it happen.

[BlkGS]

Originally Posted by Efthreeoh

I have the LH8 in my Hummer H3T. Great engine. Smooth, powerful for its weight class, and not a lick of problems for 102,000 miles. If it could get rid of the L460 it's bolted to, that would be bliss.

You could swap to a 4L80 pretty easy. 6L80 swaps are out there too.

[BlkGS]

Originally Posted by AmuroRay

They literally are - I was a fool for disregarding them for so long. Now I need a 4 door with a backseat and a manual. Are the SSs still around?

Manual SSs exist, but they're crazy rare. They're all like 10 years old now too. Manual GTOs come.up pretty often. There's also manual G8 GXPs, but again super rare. CTS-V was manual only in the first gen, and offered a manual for the second (which was supercharge and like 550hp). There's a few people who have taken G8 GTs and done LS builds (they came with a "pedestrian" version of the 6.0, a detuned LS2 basically) and 6 speed swaps. I'm sure the same can be done with Caprice PPVs (same deal here - basic 6.0 and automatic from the factory but it offered manuals on other variants).

Hell, some crazy people have swapped 6 speed manuals into Trailblazer SS too.

I have been slowly looking around for an LS2 CTS-V, or an E39 M5. Finding the M5s is easy, they're everywhere. Not as much the Caddy. The Caddy is also typically basically the same price as the realistically prices ones (not the guys who think it's reasonable to spend $200k on one or that every E39 M5 is worth $50k minimum because of BaT).

[BlkGS]

Originally Posted by x622

Big no on the Sky there. Parts for that car are rare and hard to find because nobody really makes suspension or stuff for it.

Now drop a ls in a s2000 and now we're cooking

Never really looked into them seriously. Mallett had a conversion kit for them at one point (and the Pontiac Solstice). LS swaps into RX8s was a pretty common thing for a while too. And G35s. And of course, Miatas.

[AmuroRay]

The issue with the 1st gen CTS where it's axels were too small for the torque it made and it basically grenaded it's drivetrain. And it wasn't exactly the best looking. But I could dig it if it meant I could have 00whp+ N/A V8 and 7000RPM.

[Efthreeoh]

Originally Posted by BlkGS

Manual SSs exist, but they're crazy rare. They're all like 10 years old now too. Manual GTOs come.up pretty often. There's also manual G8 GXPs, but again super rare. CTS-V was manual only in the first gen, and offered a manual for the second (which was supercharge and like 550hp). There's a few people who have taken G8 GTs and done LS builds (they came with a "pedestrian" version of the 6.0, a detuned LS2 basically) and 6 speed swaps. I'm sure the same can be done with Caprice PPVs (same deal here - basic 6.0 and automatic from the factory but it offered manuals on other variants).

Hell, some crazy people have swapped 6 speed manuals into Trailblazer SS too.

I have been slowly looking around for an LS2 CTS-V, or an E39 M5. Finding the M5s is easy, they're everywhere. Not as much the Caddy. The Caddy is also typically basically the same price as the realistically prices ones (not the guys who think it's reasonable to spend $200k on one or that every E39 M5 is worth $50k minimum because of BaT).

And The General was giving away SS back in the day for under $35K. A friend of mine has one. He's sitting on it. Low miles. Manual.

[MisanoblueZ4]

Originally Posted by AmuroRay

The issue with the 1st gen CTS where it's axels were too small for the torque it made and it basically grenaded it's drivetrain. And it wasn't exactly the best looking. But I could dig it if it meant I could have 00whp+ N/A V8 and 7000RPM.

Yup, CTS-V and GTO of the mid 2000’s had severe rear end problems. First time I wheel hopped the 05 GTO I thought the car had exploded.

[BlkGS]

Originally Posted by AmuroRay

The issue with the 1st gen CTS where it's axels were too small for the torque it made and it basically grenaded it's drivetrain. And it wasn't exactly the best looking. But I could dig it if it meant I could have 00whp+ N/A V8 and 7000RPM.

Yeah, they had rear end issues, they needed slightly different sized axles to prevent wheel hop. It's better on the LS2 cars. And most of the issues are at above stock power levels. Easily fixed too with either the 2nd Gen rear end, new axles at moderate power levels, or just go nuts with a high strength rear end for like 6-8k. But that's when you want like 600whp.

[BlkGS]

Originally Posted by Efthreeoh

And The General was giving away SS back in the day for under $35K. A friend of mine has one. He's sitting on it. Low miles. Manual.

Dude, for real. I thought about getting one then.ii was a fool for not. They were practically BEGGING me to trade my Vette for one. Big money for the Vette, 0% for 72 months, 20+ percent off MSRP. They'd have probably let me take their old lady for a ride if it'd seal the deal, lol.

Like a fool, I was like "nah, I don't need a 4 door, I'm young and single and no kids"... Yeah, well, turns out when you're young and single and no kids with a Corvette, you don't stay that way, lol.

[x622]

Originally Posted by AmuroRay

Well Mr. McLaren - I see you have a AP2. Make it happen.

Actually I plan on it. Currently looking for more s2000s. I can't do it to the s2000 I have now as it's already very special (google motoiq s2000)

[Efthreeoh]

Originally Posted by BlkGS

Dude, for real. I thought about getting one then.ii was a fool for not. They were practically BEGGING me to trade my Vette for one. Big money for the Vette, 0% for 72 months, 20+ percent off MSRP. They'd have probably let me take their old lady for a ride if it'd seal the deal, lol.

Like a fool, I was like "nah, I don't need a 4 door, I'm young and single and no kids"... Yeah, well, turns out when you're young and single and no kids with a Corvette, you don't stay that way, lol.

My situation was I had my E90 and it easily had 350,000 miles on it by then. I was driving daily 170 miles a day and 35,000 miles annually and I just couldn't see putting that amount of miles on an SS and the fuel cost would have been pretty steep, so I had to pass. My friend who has one was begging me to get one. Killing myself for not getting one.

[inverse121]

I had dinner at a friend’s on NYE. He is a fabricator and does LS swaps on the side.
His 17 year old son drives a LS3 swapped Volvo 240 wagon.

He is currently looking at an early BMW 8 series swap for someone intending on using the drivetrain from a wrecked late model LT4 Camaro.

My 1968 Buick Convertible (driver quality) will likely get a 6.0 truck motor at some point as it’s developed a rod knock and the cost to rebuild the Buick Big Block is just more than I want to spend.

LS swapped Nissan SX and BMW 3 series abound if you can find an LS fest near you.

[BlkGS]

Fun fact, you can buy a turn key LT4 + 10 speed auto drop it kit, new from GM, for like $25k. That's a bolt in 650hp V8, with computer and everything. Pretty nuts, and a solid deal.

[UPSROD]

Pretty much EVERY engine since the mid 1950's is OHV!

[AmuroRay]

Originally Posted by UPSROD

Pretty much EVERY engine since the mid 1950's is OHV!

How about "Pushrod"

[BlkGS]

Originally Posted by AmuroRay

How about "Pushrod"

Underhead Cam - UHC.

[RM7]

I had the LS3 in the G5 camaro SS. Engine was very good. Chassis was good, but not great. In manual trim it was 3850, but autos and convertibles tacked on about 200lb ea. The earlier chassis was the Zeta if I remember, same as G8/SS and 2nd generation CTS-V. The G6 Camaro with the LT1, manual and 1LE handling just kicked it into outer space tho, a couple hundred lbs lighter with an outstanding chassis and almost unchanged engine. Torque for days at any rpm. It really comes alive above 4K, but you can be at 1100rpm with 300lb/ft and cruise along with no lag/load on the engine. I do really well at AutoX and its just a blast to drive in all the right ways.