07-21-2009, 06:32 PM | #1 | |
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4 cylinder engines coming back to the USA
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Source: Bloomberg ( http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...d=ahNp0hdZXILY ) via BMWBlog ( http://www.bmwblog.com/2009/07/09/bl...nes-in-the-us/ ) and Autoblog ( http://www.autoblog.com/2009/07/21/r...d-back-to-u-s/ ) |
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07-21-2009, 07:30 PM | #6 |
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most of you guys are taking this the wrong way, look at Subaru, GTI's and evo's for instance 4 cylinder turbo charged engines that are light and gotta admit pretty fast, if BMW keeps the weight down and turbo charges there engines i don't see a reason to complain.
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07-21-2009, 07:43 PM | #8 |
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BMW has ALOT more experience and skill in making high performance and high quality 4 cylinder engines then most manufacturers out there.. .... after all, theres a reason why BMW designed their world headquarters to resemble 4 cylinders.... |
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07-21-2009, 07:47 PM | #9 |
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07-21-2009, 08:40 PM | #11 |
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Does the CAFE calculation include Mini or only BMW? I don't know how the fleet average number is calculated, but if it is for all car lines by a given manufacturer, then Mini should count, too, right?
In any event, I'd be tickled to see a turbo 4 in a 1 series or maybe the new Z2 roadster. I like my E90 a lot, but the 3 series really has gotten too big/heavy for my purposes. My next car will be a 1-series of some sort, probably a convertible, and I've got no problems at all with a turbo-4 in that. John C. |
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07-21-2009, 09:35 PM | #12 |
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It's already confirmed with the dealers. The 1-series is getting a 4 cyl diesel option next yr.
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07-21-2009, 10:10 PM | #13 |
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this is bad for car sales, and BMW who seems to be following the "rules" of the MPG legislation. But US automakers aren't going to play by the rules, and BMW will get no more than a pat on the back.
on a different note: smaller engines in smaller, lighter cars is a good thing |
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07-21-2009, 10:24 PM | #14 |
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Good. I don't care if it's a 4-cylinder, 2-cylinder, electric, hydrogen, hybrid, etc. If it handles as well, achieves as much excitement/torque/horsepower or more than the previous generation, then I am happy. There's nothing wrong with trying to get more out of less.
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07-21-2009, 10:51 PM | #15 |
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I wouldn't put much stock in anything a dealer claims, they are usually the last to know...
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The horsepower/displacement war didn't have too much life left in the near future, as the potential for gain has decreased significantly over the last few years in the entry level segment. As Zell noted, this will challenge automakers to produce lighter, more efficient performance oriented cars. These are what engineers thrive on, and we will see some great products will minimal if any loss on the performance/fun side. Guys have some faith in innovation. You could look at it either way, but to me this is a very exciting time where we could return to lighter more tossable options. |
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07-21-2009, 10:57 PM | #17 | |
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BMW has always been about innovation and the new technical challenges are definitly in trying to maintain the current levels of comfort, quality, safety and performance in a lighter and more efficient package. I have faith that BMW is far ahead of the pack and is turning the ship in the right direction to tackle the future. None of this is to say BMW is not capable of producing amazing high performance M cars, etc.. but I don't see the two as mutually exclusive and a car company can produce both high power vehicles and light weight efficient vehicles at the same time... |
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07-21-2009, 11:12 PM | #18 |
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Well said Mark
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07-21-2009, 11:56 PM | #20 |
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Interesting... is it just me thinking that if BMW reintroduced an e30-like m3 with 4cylinder engine with turbo and significant horsepower increase, but same lightweight and handling as the e30 that Bimmer nuts would go crazy and call it the best car ever? I'd buy it for $70k. I just couldn't live with my conscience buying the big v8 this time around...
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07-22-2009, 01:32 AM | #22 |
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Bring over all the options I say, especially the 4-cylinder diesel cars. Let companies with fleets buy/lease them or anyone else that wants them.
I really just want a 330d. I don't really need the 335d.
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