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03-16-2012, 12:22 AM | #69 |
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I'm not an expert when it comes to 'Stangs, so maybe experts can chime in (ragingclue, etc), but I don't understand where the 302 Boss fits in the 'Stang lineup compared to the Shelby. I know the Shelby has more power, but I've read that the 302 is a better track car. There is a chunky price difference between the two.
Also, how are Ford manuals? Shift, clutch feel, etc.
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If I was dedicated to tracking the car, I would still get a BOSS over the Shelby though. Just less to go wrong, less heat soak, less weight, etc.... I can't remember what transmission is going in the '13 GT500, but the TR6060 from previous years takes some effort to row, and sometimes it's hard to find gears if you aren't used to it yet, but it's heavy feel and clunk when it reaches gear feel good to me. The clutch action is pretty easy. Those transmissions sometimes get 1-2 shifting issues if you're shifting too fast. I think that's because the ratios are so far apart that the synchros need time. And as far as the MT-82, it's also real good (5.0 and BOSS). Seems to be lower effort and I never had trouble finding gears with it, but it lacked the heaviness that I like. It's a Getrag and reminded me a bit of my last manual BMW. The MT-82 was Ford's HPFP but it seems to have been solved in newer builds. |
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The boss will most likely discontinue in 2013 so there won't be much redundancy in the lineup. What the boss does have over the shelby is the track motor staright out of the boss 302s and r. Desgned for track abuse and a 7500 rpm redline w/ a valvetrain designed to withstand a 9k miss shift and as stated the weight and simplicity advantage...
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How does everyone get the information that the Boss 302 is a better track car than the 13 GT500? As far as I know, there has not been an actual track test putting the two cars against each other? Or am I missing something?
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The only thing we stated was that for hpde drivers, the boss would be the better choice bc of the maintenance, weight, less chance of heat soak and most importantly the motor. Its what ford actually uses in their conpetion cars...it's not a simple tune and intake 5.0l. Over the regular mustang it has forged pistons, new heads, completely new valve train and manifold to name a few. They didn't go through all that hassle for 30hp
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It's been a big problem for as long as I've been going to the track. 0-60 times are nice, but racing requires endurance too.
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