[///M coupe ni6]

A lot of surprises and "non-traditional M cars", but still an interesting read. What are your picks?

http://www.boldride.com/blog/2012/08...0-years/12119/

1970′s- The Upstart
1) 1978- 1981 BMW M1
2) 1971-1975 BMW 3.0 CSL
3) 1980-1984 BMW e12 M535i

1980′s- The Rebels
1) 1985-1988 BMW M5
2) 1984-1989 BMW M3
3) 1984-1988 BMW M6

1990′s- Understated Excellence
1) 1992-1999 M3
2) 1989-1995 M5
3) 1992-1996 850CSi

2000′s – The Pinnacle
1) 2001-2002 M Coupe
2) 1998-2005 BMW M5
3) tie: M6 Convertible & M3 CSL:

2010′s- A New Age: The Turbocharged Era
1) 2011 BMW 1M
2) 2012+ BMW M5
3) 2010 BMW X5M

[Crimson92]

how is the e63 on here but not the e60? And the e9x or e85/6, where are they?

[GeeRam]

What a ridiculous X5M included instead of a 2002 Turbo

It's clear from this statement...

Though Porsche may boast more outright Le Man’s victories, BMW was the first manufacturer to deliver road going versions of its race cars en masse. BMW M pioneered the concept of “race on Sunday, sell on Monday” in a way the world had never seen before.

.....that the person knows very little, as Ford pioneered the 'win on Sunday, sell on Monday' concept with the Lotus-Cortina a full 10 years before BMW ///M even started building road cars, and had set up their small, specialist Advanced Vehicle Operations producing the fabled Rallye Sport range here in the UK in 1970.

[Halitosis]

http://www.boldride.com/blog/2012/08...0-years/12119/

1970′s- The Upstart
1) 1978- 1981 BMW M1
2) 1971-1975 BMW 3.0 CSL
3) 1980-1984 BMW e12 M535i

1980′s- The Rebels
1) 1985-1988 BMW M5
2) 1984-1989 BMW M3
3) 1984-1988 BMW M6

1990′s- Understated Excellence
1) 1992-1999 M3
2) 1989-1995 M5
3) 1992-1996 850CSi

2000′s – The Pinnacle
1) 2001-2002 M Coupe
2) 1998-2005 BMW M5
3) tie: M6 Convertible & M3 CSL:

2010′s- A New Age: The Turbocharged Era
1) 2011 BMW 1M
2) 2012+ BMW M5
3) 2010 BMW X5M

[rjd598]

when the m3 csl and e63 m6 vert tie and the e9x isn't even on the new age list you know this is a bogus list...

[Halitosis]

Originally Posted by rjd598

when the m3 csl and e63 m6 vert tie and the e9x isn't even on the new age list you know this is a bogus list...

No offense to E9x M3s but they have yet to make any classic/future collectible/most desirable list. Time will tell but if you've seen similar lists by published by mainstream mags and enthusiasts several come up time and time again.

Having driven numerous BMWs including an E92 M3 regularly, I personally feel that the E46 M3 was and will be the last great M3. Chris Harris (no I don't ride his male genitalia) summed it up nicely and said that the E46 M3 is the perfect car ever produced.

[Nate2046]

I'll take one of those '84 M3s and an X5M! Seriously, I'm glad my e86M wasn't included in that bullshat of a list. I give the author an F for effort and F for execution. Pathetic

[Halitosis]

Originally Posted by Nate2046

I'll take one of those '84 M3s and an X5M! Seriously, I'm glad my e86M wasn't included in that bullshat of a list. I give the author an F for effort and F for execution. Pathetic

Rarely is the E86M included as well. I can pull up several of these lists and the few that virtually always show up with regularity (not including the pre 80s models) are E30 M3s (obviously), S54 Z3M Coupes, and Z8s. Shall I cite more sources including published magazine material?

Another example here.
Counter Steer: Top 5 Collectible BMWs Since the Late 80s

(no particular order)
5.) 2002 M Coupe
4.) 2011 1M Coupe
3.) 2000 Z8
2.) 1987 E30 M3
1.) 1994 Canadian Spec E36 M3
http://www.bimmerfile.com/2012/02/22...-the-late-80s/

[Halitosis]

Here's one published magazine (BIMMER MAGAZINE - April 2009) article documenting BMW collectibility.


"Since we can't go back in time, we decided to take a look at the vintage and non-current BMW's that are still available for reasonable prices but which have the potential to appreciate in value over the next 20 years.
Though we weren't necessarily looking for the next generation's 328s and 507s, rarity was a criterion even though few BMWs are truly rare. Most were mass-produced for series production; as vintage car experts Michael Sheehan and Kerry Morse told us, the M1 is the only post-war BMW (beyond the 507 and 503) with pebble Beach potential. Not surprisingly, it made our list even though prices have risen substantially over the last few years.

We concocted our list after consulting with nearly everyone on the Bimmer staff, plus the aforementioned experts and BMW of North America's Larry Koch (who cares for the North American vintage fleet) and Rob Mitchell, former BMW NA corporate communications director and lifetime BMW enthusiast. Since the same cars turned up on nearly everyone's Top Ten list, we think we got it right. If you think we missed a future collectible, however, please let us know."

The short-list (in no particular order or rank):
1.) 1600 GT
2.) Z3 M Coupe
3.) 2002 Turbo
4.) Z1
5.) E30 M3
6.) M1
7.) 3.0 CSL
8.) 3200 CS
9.) 850 CSi
10.) Z8

The "Not-Quite-Collectibles" but a few more to consider:
-3.0 CS and CSi
-2002tii
-M635CSi
-E30 325is
-E36 M3 LTW

[Nate2046]

Originally Posted by Halitosis

Shall I cite more sources including published magazine material?

Post up whatever you want. I was just pointing out that the list you cited was stupid given that it cited non-existant models and trucks. I think either one of those mistakes makes it irrelevant. As far as the e86M model goes, if you don't get it, well, I don't think you'd really 'get' what makes the best of the Ms.

[Halitosis]

Originally Posted by Nate2046

Post up whatever you want. I was just pointing out that the list you cited was stupid given that it cited non-existant models and trucks. I think either one of those mistakes makes it irrelevant. As far as the e86M model goes, if you don't get it, well, I don't think you'd really 'get' what makes the best of the Ms.

Don't get me wrong, several models on that list would have never been mentioned if I were to create a list however the majority were on point.

I am a fan of the E86M but it is lackluster when placed next to its more crude, older brother the S54 powered ultra-rare Z3M Coupe (680 for North America, 2001-2002 combined) which is one of my top 5 favorite cars ever produced. Its smooth, muscular good looks which harks back to the glorious days of MGB GTs and E-type Jags are mouth watering. Production numbers aside, its cult-like following will only further its status as a major contender for future collectibility.

[rjd598]

Originally Posted by Halitosis

No offense to E9x M3s but they have yet to make any classic/future collectible/most desirable list. Time will tell but if you've seen similar lists by published by mainstream mags and enthusiasts several come up time and time again.

Having driven numerous BMWs including an E92 M3 regularly, I personally feel that the E46 M3 was and will be the last great M3. Chris Harris (no I don't ride his male genitalia) summed it up nicely and said that the E46 M3 is the perfect car ever produced.

Sums up the general point that the list was shit. In all honesty with all opinions piled in every m3 produced was a success in more ways than one. My point was that in the "new age" section it definitely deserved a spot. I never mentioned anything about its collectibility or value. X5M>e9x m3? And to think the 1m is a baby m3....c'mon the current gen m3 has to make the list

[///M coupe ni6]

The M3 is on the list, the author gave points to the s54 Z3M just based on coolness and rarity. Besides you can't put the e39 M5 lower than 2nd and BMW M made a lot of great cars during the 2000's. Is the e46 M3 the best M car ever? Probably it certainly has the performance, handiling, ride comfort, and luxury to make it so. but I don't think it's the coolest. And this article tries take into account coolness/interest factor over straight performance and BMW fanboyism. Otherwise it would have read like the list from Bimmer magazine. Which we've all read already.