[Red Bread]

Originally Posted by Soterios

The point was that Tesla didn't design that car to be "fast" or to be out there winning 24 hour races.

It just happens to be very fast, so people are comparing it to...well...the only other fast EV sedan.

I just think people are comparing apples to oranges because they're both fruit. That's fine, but the grandstanding is a little funny.

I don't see it that way. Lots of people hear that Teslas are fast, but they don't realize the extremely narrow window of opportunity. Fully charged, 45 minute preheat, all of the right modes engaged, and can only do it two or three times. The Porsche is like an ICE car, push the pedal, get the same result, again and again. That's fundamentally different than the Tesla.

If a MacLaren 720s has to be fully fueled, have a heat pump running for 45 minutes and a lot of buttons pushed to do its magic, people would be calling shenanigans on it too.

[Soterios]

Originally Posted by Red Bread

I don't see it that way. Lots of people hear that Teslas are fast, but they don't realize the extremely narrow window of opportunity. Fully charged, 45 minute preheat, all of the right modes engaged, and can only do it two or three times. The Porsche is like an ICE car, push the pedal, get the same result, again and again. That's fundamentally different than the Tesla.

If a MacLaren 720s has to be fully fueled, have a heat pump running for 45 minutes and a lot of buttons pushed to do its magic, people would be calling shenanigans on it too.

It IS fundamentally different. That was my point. The Tesla is a luxury sedan that goes pretty fast. The Taycan was designed to go fast. It's also $70,000 more expensive. It's not "shenanigans". It's two very different cars.

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This thing also randomly burst into flames

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Originally Posted by GoneIn4Secs

This thing also randomly burst into flames

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Originally Posted by JamesNoBrakes

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Yes if i owned a car park or something, i would def not let EV park indoors

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Originally Posted by JamesNoBrakes

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