[Al Pinã]

Originally Posted by TheBingoBalls

No one knows unless someone goes deep into numbers. Also consider that BMW might want to remove a variant in the same series (3er, 4er) and force you into something like a X1 or X3 where the sales will be significantly more. Add that BMW split the cost of the Z4 with Toyota and by having a roadster just to have in the line up, all these things likely contributed and likely not whether a 3er wagon would outsell a Z4 (probably would).

Split the difference and make a Z4 Wagon.

[TAZ007]

Originally Posted by itsmabs

it's kinda interesting that they went through the cost of bringing the z4 to the USA, but a wagon isn't worth it. Would wagon sales really be less than the z4. Might very well be, but as a wagon enthusiast, seems off to me. On a daily basis I see many more wagons than 2 seater convertibles. So makes me wonder what numbers make it worth it for bmw.

The wagons are now called SUVs

[TheBingoBalls]

Originally Posted by ALPINA_DREAMS

Split the difference and make a Z4 Wagon.

Z4-looking shooting brake wouldn't be too bad

[itsmabs]

Originally Posted by TheBingoBalls

Z4-looking shooting brake wouldn't be too bad

z4m shooting brake, I'm in.

[F32Fleet]

Originally Posted by itsmabs

it's kinda interesting that they went through the cost of bringing the z4 to the USA, but a wagon isn't worth it. Would wagon sales really be less than the z4. Might very well be, but as a wagon enthusiast, seems off to me. On a daily basis I see many more wagons than 2 seater convertibles. So makes me wonder what numbers make it worth it for bmw.

Without Toyota there would never have been a Z4

[soheil]

I'm really amazed that i3 YTD is up 238%!!! Maybe 2020 was exceptionally low due to COVID, but the whole narrative around i3 is that since sales were down and it wasn't competitive/appealing enough in US market BMW decided to kill it, but the numbers definitely say otherwise

[stein_325i]

Originally Posted by soheil

I'm really amazed that i3 YTD is up 238%!!! Maybe 2020 was exceptionally low due to COVID, but the whole narrative around i3 is that since sales were down and it wasn't competitive/appealing enough in US market BMW decided to kill it, but the numbers definitely say otherwise

I wouldn't exactly call 851 sales in half a year a smash success either.

[TAZ007]

Originally Posted by F32Fleet

Without Toyota there would never have been a Z4

Agree, and if there was no Z4 I would be waiting on a 718 Spyder.

Discussion moved: https://g80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1839531

[M3GymNut]

4 Series and X3 keeping BMW afloat...

[MachinesWithSouls]

Originally Posted by stein_325i

I am very curious to see how Q3 Sales will look. While the chip shortage has been ongoing for some time now, it seems that the Germans are being more so affected now than ever. Within the last month, every time I've passed my local BMW and MB dealers the inventory has been dwindling. For example, my local MB dealer has only 9 new vehicles in stock and the lot is empty, my local BMW dealer was pretty similar with lots of open gaps on the new car lot.

You know it's bad when they are putting used Jeeps and Lexus in the front, as my local dealer is doing.

[soheil]

Originally Posted by stein_325i

I wouldn't exactly call 851 sales in half a year a smash success either.

Yeah, I agree, i3 volume overall has been low

[COBodom]

Ah the 6 Series....a car that once was the sexiest and best looking design in the line-up morphed into a.... G32 (via F07). BMW, bring the 5 series touring and end the suffering. These sales figures are excruciating.

Its pretty clear; people who want more cargo space and ease of access go with the X flavor not with G32.

[mkoesel]

Originally Posted by COBodom

Its pretty clear; people who want more cargo space and ease of access go with the X flavor not with G32.

As I sort of alluded to (but did not make absolutely explicit) in my first post, Z4 notwithstanding, vehicles with sales decreases this quarter compared to a year ago are out of production (for the US). In the G32's case, it has been discontinued for two years now. But yes, sales were trending very low even when it was in production, and that's the reason why it's no longer sold here.

[AlexFL]

Originally Posted by M3GymNut

4 Series and X3 keeping BMW afloat...

X5 is hugely successful for its segment and so is X7.

[F32Fleet]

Originally Posted by M3GymNut

4 Series and X3 keeping BMW afloat...

Huh? Don't you mean the 3 Series?

[stein_325i]

BMW Takes Lead in U.S. Luxury Market With Better Access to Chips

Originally Posted by Bloomberg

BMW AG's U.S. sales blew past rivals' in the second quarter as the luxury carmaker did a better job of stocking dealerships with new vehicles in spite of a global semiconductor shortage.

The German luxury brand sold 96,561 vehicles from April through June, almost double its deliveries a year ago and 35% more than in the first quarter of 2021. It outsold competitor Mercedes-Benz by 14,171 units in the second quarter, and took the lead in U.S. luxury sales year-to-date, edging out Daimler AG's luxury brand by 7,348 vehicles.

BMW seized on pent-up demand from pandemic-weary drivers as a global shortage of semiconductor chips continues to choke off auto production and limit supply.

The company is doing a better job of managing its hoard of semiconductors, which are needed to power everything from radios to braking systems, and that's helping it keep up with dealer orders better than some of its luxury rivals, said Marc Cohen, vice president of Priority 1 Automotive Group in Towson, Maryland. His company owns multiple BMW stores as well as Jaguar Land Rover, Audi, Porsche, Mini, Cadillac and Acura dealerships.

"Even though production is limited or lower, it's not coming to a halt like some of these other brands," Cohen said. With inventory limited, cars being delivered now were ordered by customers two months ago, he said.

SUVs from BMW's assembly plant in Spartanburg, South Carolina, take about six to eight weeks to arrive, quicker than the three-month wait for cars coming from Germany, he said.