F1 2021: Saudi Arabian GP - Jeddah (Dec 5)

M5Rick · 12-07-2021, 03:48 AM

''I know Max,he has been fighting for the title all year and he remains cool''
Former F1 driver van der Garde has said Max will get the title one way or another, it'll be Yes Marina

for the Belgian where he won last year though the track has been strangely altered since last year,is it done to favour Merc rocket ship again?

M5Rick · 12-07-2021, 03:52 AM

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Originally Posted by F87source

So since max's transmission didn't fail for the same crash as Charles and was not investigated, this means the whole thing is rigged for max?

Right, good logic.

You know that Ferrari mechanicals are on the limit as such for more speed,Chas's impact was more severe also full side on rather than Max's forward side swipe and rebound.

F87source · 12-07-2021, 03:58 AM

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Originally Posted by M5Rick

''I know Max,he has been fighting for the title all year and he remains cool''
Former F1 driver van der Garde has said Max will get the title one way or another, it'll be Yes Marina

for the Belgian where he won last year though the track has been strangely altered since last year,is it done to favour Merc rocket ship again?

I'm sure van understands the pressure of a title battle of this magnitude more than Nico Rosberg does, you know even though Nico was in literally in the same position as max and under the same conditions, while van has only competed in F1 for 1 season and has 0 career points.

Who knows, championship is still up for grabs but the pressure on max is probably mind blowing knowing he could have bungled an easy title.

Yup I'm sure they spent massive amounts of cash on track redevelopment early on in the year because they knew exactly how Mercede's car would play out. You know even though Mercedes sucked all early part of the season so it would have been a massive waste of money for what could've been a failed attempt to help Merc, especially if max didn't bungle the attempt and wrapped up the championship early. But again who knows how this will end.

F87source · 12-07-2021, 03:59 AM

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Originally Posted by M5Rick

You know that Ferrari mechanicals are on the limit as such for more speed,Chas's impact was more severe also full side on rather than Max's forward side swipe and rebound.

So different crashes have different damage outcomes?

You know kind of like wings and potential damage?

M5Rick · 12-07-2021, 04:02 AM

Brundle sometimes has good advice and comments but he should STFU about Max,of course being from blighty like Hill boy he wouldn't dare say anything negative about ham's faults, the hypocrite

M5Rick · 12-07-2021, 04:03 AM

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Originally Posted by F87source

So different crashes have different damage outcomes?

You know kind of like wings and potential damage?

It's waaaay past your bedtime f87,get some shut eye in

F87source · 12-07-2021, 04:36 AM

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Originally Posted by M5Rick

It's waaaay past your bedtime f87,get some shut eye in

Lolol, you're not wrong about that.

M5Rick · 12-07-2021, 04:53 AM

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Originally Posted by F87source

Lolol, you're not wrong about that.

Sweet dreams

F87source · 12-07-2021, 04:55 AM

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Originally Posted by M5Rick

Sweet dreams

I will try not to let Steiner fook smash my door.

///M Power-Belgium · 12-07-2021, 05:21 AM

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Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

It's not necessary for HAM to shave the walls with millimeters to gain time and speed .
Shaving walls requires b@lls and HAM is too chicken anyway ..
HAM's Mercedes RocketShip pulled him to the pole ..Relaxed !

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Originally Posted by F87source

This is the mentality that costs championships that could've been wrapped up long ago.

You edited my post , that makes that your statement makes sense ...

Same way .Just like Mercedes is cheating with HAM's Rocket PU.

Well done mate !

M5Rick · 12-07-2021, 05:48 AM

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Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

You edited my post , that makes that your statement makes sense ...

Same way .Just like Mercedes is cheating with HAM's Rocket PU.

Well done mate !

They just don't want to see it and it affects all the other teams too who keep quiet b/c of Merc supply of PU's,they have stranglehold on them and even Hill said at one time Merc should GTFO of F1.

inTgr8r · 12-07-2021, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Bubbles

Here are a few screen grabs of Lap 43. Conceptually I don’t view this as a problem but FIA can’t dish out penalties for this sometimes and do nothing for largely identical situations. It’s gotta cut both ways, my preference is to let them race.

Masi FIA race director Michael Masi said that was “borderline black-and-white warning flag” moment. Yet he did nothing, dude is in over his head.

IMO the issue lies with modern track design.
Bring back the gravel traps & problem solved w/o rules intervention.

inTgr8r · 12-07-2021, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Listen mate ...
MAX got the order to let HAM by .We know that .. Fine !

"BUT"
Let HAM by in a strategic manner !

"Strategic manner" = RB code to play DRS games to trick HAM.

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Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

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Both (HAM and MAX) they were aware, the DRS zone was coming on the straight ..

Agreed, and no rule against MAX playing this game and I'm OK with this.
But there is also no rule that HAM has to take the pass where RB dictates.
HAM perfectly within his rights to wait until after DRS line.
Rules do not dictate where the place must be given back.

This was a case of HAM understanding RB tricks.

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Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

What followed was : "The Roadrunner" !
Do you understand ?

Wrong...
What followed is MAX got red mist because his DRS line trick didn't work
and then Max did his erratic acceleration and then brake check.

Once again Max's hot head got him in trouble.

M5Rick · 12-07-2021, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by inTgr8r

"Strategic manner" = RB code to play DRS games to trick HAM.

Agreed, and no rule against MAX playing this game and I'm OK with this.
But there is also no rule that HAM has to take the pass where RB dictates.
HAM perfectly within his rights to wait until after DRS line.
Rules do not dictate where the place must be given back.

This was a case of HAM understanding RB tricks.

Wrong...
What followed is MAX got red mist because his DRS line trick didn't work
and then Max did his erratic acceleration and then brake check.

Once again Max's hot head got him in trouble.

Nah you got it all wrong,Ham had his chance to get past that's why Max accelerated and then braked wondering what the hell he is playing at when he didn't go past as he had to let him past,drs zone or not.
Max was a victim of dumbo director who misread the situation and as said before he needs to go.

inTgr8r · 12-07-2021, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by M5Rick

Nah you got it all wrong,Ham had his chance to get past that's why Max accelerated and then braked wondering what the hell he is playing at when he didn't go past as he had to let him past,drs zone or not.
Max was a victim of dumbo director who misread the situation and as said before he needs to go.

you really are hilarious

Steeler · 12-07-2021, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by inTgr8r

you really are hilarious

Dickie sits around for hours thinking of ways how he can try and spin things, he actually knows his comments are wrong, but we all know the definition of insanity.

I am a troll, I know it but Dickie is the Emperor of Trolling.

Bartledoo · 12-07-2021, 11:05 AM

Ham’s race IQ is sooo high. Pretty funny that he’s fooled his haters into believing that he is just frolicking around the track with no idea what’s actually going on, yet (among many things) manages to get through entire races with Max driving at him like an iracing rookie classer (which I love btw).

I am just greatful we have both of them for some very different talent and amazing racing action, unlike the high and mighty snobs who want the cleanest racing with no drama, and constantly want penalties. I hope they never have a say in governing F1.

Crimson92 · 12-07-2021, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

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Originally Posted by Crimson92

Yeah but the sudden acceleration and sudden deceleration line is max so I don't really see the point you're trying to make.

It clearly shows max accelerated then hard braked.

Listen mate ...
MAX got the order to let HAM by .We know that .. Fine !

"BUT"
Let HAM by in a strategic manner !

In other words :
Both (HAM and MAX) they were aware, the DRS zone was coming on the straight ..
To get and to keep P2 was the key there !

What followed was : "The Roadrunner" !
Do you understand ?

Of course they were both aware. No one is arguing that.

Explain why max brake checked ?

You can't. It was a dick move.

Moving on.

paulo_f80m3 · 12-07-2021, 11:40 AM

At least Max has the balls to fight Hamilton and Bottas while the rest of the grid (except Alonso) lets them go by without a fight. Looking forward to Sunday.

M Hybrid V8 · 12-07-2021, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by paulo_f80m3

At least Max has the balls to fight Hamilton and Bottas while the rest of the grid (except Alonso) lets them go by without a fight. Looking forward to Sunday.

Max should be willing to fight Hamilton, but within the confines of the rules. Being willing to consistently and blatantly break the rules to fight Hamilton is not an honorable trait. A boxer attempting to become championship by head kicking his opponent then declaring "at least I have the balls to fight the champ!" is a fool.

It's already been mentioned, but Max squandered away the opportunity to already have won the championship and he wouldn't have needed to resort to so much dirty driving to accomplish that task.

M5Rick · 12-07-2021, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by dbarton62

Dickie sits around for hours thinking of ways how he can try and spin things, he actually knows his comments are wrong, but we all know the definition of insanity.

I am a troll, I know it but Dickie is the Emperor of Trolling.

Nice of U to admit you're a troll Barty even though you know little heheh

M5Rick · 12-07-2021, 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by StatenEye

But I didn't vote, I'm confused...

When you win championships, you don't bother with awards and prizes that don't really matter in the end... Retrospectively no one will look back at driver awards, they will look at championships.

You are free to vote on some F1 sites when the race is finishing,I do it on F1 it's easy.

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M5Rick General 73153 Rep 23,162 Posts Drives: M5 F10 DCT Gunmetal Join Date: Aug 2018 Location: GB iTrader: (0)	Brundle sometimes has good advice and comments but he should STFU about Max,of course being from blighty like Hill boy he wouldn't dare say anything negative about ham's faults, the hypocrite
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