BMW CEO: 2025 Neue Klasse Launch To Include 3er Sedan & Sporty SUV

BMWGirlFL · 08-03-2022, 10:34 AM

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Statement Oliver Zipse, Chairman of the Board of Management of BMW AG, Conference Call Half-Year Report to 30 June 2022

...Our NEUE KLASSE will be coming in 2025 – at exactly the right time, when the e‑mobility ramp-up will be reaching new levels. The NEUE KLASSE will speed up market penetration of electric vehicles even further. For the launch of the NEUE KLASSE, we are planning a compact sedan in the 3 Series segment and a sporty SUV. By the end of the decade, the NEUE KLASSE should already account for more than half our global sales. We could also imagine a hydrogen drivetrain for this new vehicle generation...

... In January 2023, we will take things to the next level, when we present a digital Vision Vehicle, at the CES, as well as our NEXTGen in Las Vegas. It will showcase our digital expertise – both in our vehicles and as a company and partner for tech players around the world. And, for IAA 2023, I can already promise you a glimpse of the NEUE KLASSE – with a spectacular digital experience for our customers.

https://www.press.bmwgroup.com/globa...o-30-june-2022

https://www.press.bmwgroup.com/globa...02719EN/565008

G35POPPEDMYCHERRY · 08-03-2022, 10:38 AM

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xlover · 08-03-2022, 10:50 AM

So the new classe 3 series sized vehicle will live alongside the final years of the G2X clar 3/4 series….

Will be interesting to see what comes down our insider pipeline around development of a new ice/hybrid 3 series model on the CLAR platform or if they commit to electric only i3 as the sole offering in the segment.

I tend to think we will see a new "traditional" ice/hybrid car to replace the existing 3. That is a lot of sales to walk away from where customers are not ready for electric only. And to kill the m3 ice and go hybrid only so soon (3-4 years) after introducing the first hybrid M cars (xm, m5) seems off from a strategy standpoint, they have room to iterate, we haven't even seen hybrid S58 yet! Especially where the m3 is holding on to manuals right now, that would be an abrupt transition from "you can have a manual" to "you can't even have any form of ice". Considering how aggressive the M branding and marketing has been it just reinforces how much it would be for them to walk away from

chris719 · 08-03-2022, 12:33 PM

What is with BMW's fascination with hydrogen? It's got basically zero infrastructure, low end-to-end efficiency, still requires battery packs, etc. Might be a useful stopgap in some niches, but not a 3 series or X3.

If they want to build EVs just build an EV-only platform, make it as good as it can be, and stop compromising it with provisions to be reconfigured for different drivetrains.

Keeping CLAR going for ICE sounds fine to me. Stellantis is still building Chargers based on ancient microwaved MB chassis, so why not?

stein_325i · 08-03-2022, 01:25 PM

So it sounds like they are taking a similar approach to MB and Audi by offering an electric variant that differs to the ICE model (EQS vs S, A6 vs A6 E-Tron), while extending the regular ICE car's production timeline. After that, I assume they will come together as one (for example, i3 will eventually just become 3 once there is no ICE variant).

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xlover Colonel 2242 Rep 2,590 Posts Drives: 2023 X7 40i Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Boston iTrader: (0)	So the new classe 3 series sized vehicle will live alongside the final years of the G2X clar 3/4 series…. Will be interesting to see what comes down our insider pipeline around development of a new ice/hybrid 3 series model on the CLAR platform or if they commit to electric only i3 as the sole offering in the segment. I tend to think we will see a new "traditional" ice/hybrid car to replace the existing 3. That is a lot of sales to walk away from where customers are not ready for electric only. And to kill the m3 ice and go hybrid only so soon (3-4 years) after introducing the first hybrid M cars (xm, m5) seems off from a strategy standpoint, they have room to iterate, we haven't even seen hybrid S58 yet! Especially where the m3 is holding on to manuals right now, that would be an abrupt transition from "you can have a manual" to "you can't even have any form of ice". Considering how aggressive the M branding and marketing has been it just reinforces how much it would be for them to walk away from
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chris719 Major General 7612 Rep 7,533 Posts Drives: '08 M Roadster Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: NJ iTrader: (0)	What is with BMW's fascination with hydrogen? It's got basically zero infrastructure, low end-to-end efficiency, still requires battery packs, etc. Might be a useful stopgap in some niches, but not a 3 series or X3. If they want to build EVs just build an EV-only platform, make it as good as it can be, and stop compromising it with provisions to be reconfigured for different drivetrains. Keeping CLAR going for ICE sounds fine to me. Stellantis is still building Chargers based on ancient microwaved MB chassis, so why not?
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stein_325i Ring Leader of G8X Haters 25309 Rep 8,764 Posts Drives: A Car Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: All-Around iTrader: (0)	So it sounds like they are taking a similar approach to MB and Audi by offering an electric variant that differs to the ICE model (EQS vs S, A6 vs A6 E-Tron), while extending the regular ICE car's production timeline. After that, I assume they will come together as one (for example, i3 will eventually just become 3 once there is no ICE variant).
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