[F32Fleet]

Originally Posted by chicagofan00

Interesting. We’ll see just how much of this actually becomes a reality, and to what level, over the coming years.

Ya,. I think a lot of posters assume this is the car we're getting when it's just a concept showcasing a design philosophy.

[Cortexiphan]

Originally Posted by TargaM2

BMW & USA = the best ?…🤣😂, what planet are you living on, crawl out from under your rock & try getting in touch with reality sunshine.
Oh & the iX your raving about is an absolute bag of shit too (everything from a Hyundai to a Rolls is sold out, that’s no gauge of success).

I guess you don't get my point
Best is always arguable, but nobody will hate on Vivo phones, Afghanistan, or Kia on the Internet. Power and success attracts admiration and hate.

It doesn't matter how you call ix, it wins every single comparison, buyers are happy, and BMW is happy with it. You may personally hate it yourself, but it's a bit narcissistic to claim that everybody hates it because you do.

[TargaM2]

Originally Posted by Cortexiphan

I guess you don't get my point
Best is always arguable, but nobody will hate on Vivo phones, Afghanistan, or Kia on the Internet. Power and success attracts admiration and hate.

It doesn't matter how you call ix, it wins every single comparison, buyers are happy, and BMW is happy with it. You may personally hate it yourself, but it's a bit narcissistic to claim that everybody hates it because you do.

I guess my point went over your head. BMW & USA are respectively far from ‘the best’ in fact I’d say mediocre at best thus poor examples imo.
Secondly I didn’t claim everybody hates the ix, I called it “a bag of shit” & I totally stand by my summation.
Try to understand that just because something is popular (be it the iX or anything else) doesn’t make it any good ! (something you & sadly other sheep struggle with). Believe it or not we don’t all base the worth of something on whether it’s popular & whether others like it. Thankfully some of us were given the ability to investigate & interpret things for ourselves.
Oh & It’s narcissistic to claim everybody likes it because you do (see same logic).

[Kstoff125]

To add fuel to this dumpster fire, many of the car companies direction seems to be focused on tech over driving engagement, which is Ok but unfortunate at the same time. The economics are just not in our favor. It’s the reason a Singer 911 has a multi-year wait list and costs big 💵. It’s the reason E46 m3s and E39 m5s continue to skyrocket in value. Modern enthusiast cars are becoming few and far between.

Let’s hope BMW retains some of the M tradition.

[Tejas1836]

Originally Posted by 8MW

Counter point: more is less

Man it sure can be, weight for example

[Tejas1836]

I think most of us old timers need to stop yelling at the clouds. The automotive gestalt is changing at an almost exponential rate and most people do not like rapid change, it is our nature to try and preserve our comfort zone.
We are comfortable with what we grew up with, with what we have owned, driven, lived in over the last 10-20 years. My late grandmother moved from Arkansas to Muskogee OK in a covered wagon and watched man walk on the moon. My late father was a nuclear engineer for General Dynamics and it would be an understatement to say he would be amazed that we have radar on our cars, I still find that amazing. I grew up with a rotary phone in our home and I now have a computer in my pocket millions of times more powerful than the one that landed us on the moon and I can make phone calls with it. Remember Dick Tracy's wrist watch?
I grew up wrenching on everything that I could get my hands on and now lament how difficult it is to wrench on late model motorcycles, cars and now tractors.
With everything new there is good and bad. Some of this objective, I think a lot more subjective. Take the good with the bad, modify both as much as possible to fit our needs, both objectively and subjectively.
Life is so short.
Dark out now, I'll have to wait for the morning to go yell at the clouds.
Regards

[Lefty de Vito]

Someone wrote "less is more".
I agree.

I have critized BMW for their design accidents starting with the last 7 series LCI, the M3/M4 kidneys and finally the ugly split headlights of the X7 and 7er more recently.

But I do like the Dee (retro) design language.
Except maybe for the idiotic "square" steering wheel.

In my opinion this is the way to go with "huge" kidneys.

[Teutonic]

Originally Posted by Cortexiphan

I guess you don't get my point
Best is always arguable, but nobody will hate on Vivo phones, Afghanistan, or Kia on the Internet. Power and success attracts admiration and hate.

It doesn't matter how you call ix, it wins every single comparison, buyers are happy, and BMW is happy with it. You may personally hate it yourself, but it's a bit narcissistic to claim that everybody hates it because you do.

The problem is, everyone I know in my petrolhead group hates the new bimmers designs, with many moving awayfrom the brand…

[advantage20]

[//m535i]

Originally Posted by //m535i

Someone let Maserati know where their missing 1980’s Biturbo design drawings ended up.

https://media.carsandbids.com/cdn-cg...t=166741777378

P.S. If BMW Design need inspiration for an electric version look here:

Unlike their touchscreen fiesta it has analogue dials, buttons and a gear lever. Available ten years before this piece of throwaway software/hardware shite will launch.

[chassis]

BMW is all over the map with their design language. XM, i Vision Dee, G80.

They seem to be unsure of where to go.

[oz555]

Actually exterior design looks good. Interior does not impress me.

[Herofmine]

I won't even buy this design in a toy shop as a gift to kids. They will cry that it is ugly 😁

[NSX2M4]

So, this is like BMW's vasectomy for car enthusiasts and the, "Ultimate Driving Machine" right?

[FlashmanM2]

Much better from BMW 👏

[GoneIn4Secs]

Why would I want some machine learning AI 'companion' car???

Is my companion gonna spy on me and tell bmw and the govt everything I do??

[chassis]

Originally Posted by GoneIn4Secs

Why would I want some machine learning AI 'companion' car???

Is my companion gonna spy on me and tell bmw and the govt everything I do??

And BMW *promises* not to use your data harvested by the AI engine...

[DaveDee]

Originally Posted by Ibiza

What is this s**t!!

[NealfromNZ]

Cool concept. But it does look very retro 1970s Alfa GTV than say 2002 BMW imho