[SnowCover]

Originally Posted by mic_crispy

Just an update here, started the buyback process from BMW... lets see how that goes.

In a perfect world, they buy it back and i go to a 2024 x3 M40i.
I actually do like the looks of the 2025 X3, but its on iDrive 9 and don't want to deal with the same software headaches (and inability to code out Start/Stop).

I just ordered a start & stop disable module. My friend has already used it for about a month without any issues. Will see how it goes when it arrives.

[BarrettDB]

Originally Posted by BenDiem

I just received mine yesterday.
I just put the transmission in Sport mode. No start/stop issues.
Can anyone else confirm this?

If in Sport mode, there is no STOP/START mode. The throttle response is a bit slow but acceptable. What is NOT acceptable is the delays when you come to a stop and are not in SPORT mode. For the duration of the time the engine is off, pressing on the accelerator is a+/- 1.3 second delay experience. It's plain dangerous, and when someone is T-boned or killed, at that point in time, BMW will do something about it. Until then, the response from BMW techs (not their fault) is: "works as designed."

Do NOT lease/buy a BMW X1 or X2 until these issue as well as those noted related to I-drive 9 have been sorted.

[Lantirn]

Originally Posted by BarrettDB

If in Sport mode, there is no STOP/START mode. The throttle response is a bit slow but acceptable. What is NOT acceptable is the delays when you come to a stop and are not in SPORT mode. For the duration of the time the engine is off, pressing on the accelerator is a+/- 1.3 second delay experience. It's plain dangerous, and when someone is T-boned or killed, at that point in time, BMW will do something about it. Until then, the response from BMW techs (not their fault) is: "works as designed."

Do NOT lease/buy a BMW X1 or X2 until these issue as well as those noted related to I-drive 9 have been sorted.

PHEVs dont have this issue, but I can understand the frustration

[TheJerseyDon]

Originally Posted by jones99

I agree completely with you. My wife is the primary driver and she HATES this car. And honestly, I'm getting tired of trying to defend it. iDrive 9 is just a joke. Here are some issues:

- We have two profiles for the car, and it no longer selects one when you get int he car. You always have to choose one or you use the guest profile.
- The car no longer unlucks the doors when you approach.
- If you play an audio book - which my wife does every day - it always reconnects to the book and starts playing it - even if you shut down the app prior to turning off the car - super annoying if you don't want it to play.
- Sirius is terrible and we have the same issues that have been widely documented
- I absolutely hate auto start/stop and the fact you can't disable it
- The 2023 X1 has a confirmation screen that comes up when you start the car - just like the 2024. But it goes away if you don't dismiss it. The 2024 car will keep it up blocking your view of the screen indefinitely.
- On most days - but not all - startup time for the iDrive system is incredibly slow

I am on the latest update. However, my son just had is 2023 X1 at the dealership and then installed update 7.24 for him. I am hoping that update is available for the 2024 X1. Other updates have fixed some issues so I want to believe that BMW is marching toward getting it right!

7/24 you say send us a pic because either they pulled it or they cant find it any more .. I'm on 3/24.77 and its has addressed most of our issues for now.

[BarrettDB]

Originally Posted by SnowCover

I just ordered a start & stop disable module. My friend has already used it for about a month without any issues. Will see how it goes when it arrives.

Where did you find it?

[SnowCover]

Originally Posted by BarrettDB

Where did you find it?

I asked a friend over there to order one for me.

but some guy says it's available to the US via this eBay auction. (post #6)

https://u11.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=2126874

[mic_crispy]

Just an update here, BMW refused the buy back, stating that the car is operating as designed .. they even acknowledged that the all doors unlock option isn't infact unlocking all the doors, but just said it's the way it was engineered. Bizarre.
They will be sending me a check for some compensation (especially since my cars been in the shop for 3 weeks now due to a vent hose), but that's it.

I'll likely just sell privately as I luckily have enough equity in it.
Going to look at older x3's(m40, not m50), GLC 43 and a few others.

[SnowCover]

Originally Posted by mic_crispy

Just an update here, BMW refused the buy back, stating that the car is operating as designed .. they even acknowledged that the all doors unlock option isn't infact unlocking all the doors, but just said it's the way it was engineered. Bizarre.
They will be sending me a check for some compensation (especially since my cars been in the shop for 3 weeks now due to a vent hose), but that's it.

I'll likely just sell privately as I luckily have enough equity in it.
Going to look at older x3's(m40, not m50), GLC 43 and a few others.

I'm still not really sure what the unlock all door issue is?

Just tried it a couple of minutes ago. My X1('23 28i) was locked. I had the key fob in my pocket and my iPhone in my hand.

As soon as I entered the garage, the lights flashed and all the doors unlocked before I even touched the car.

I got in the car and turned the comfort access door unlock and lock both to off.

Got out and locked the car again. Then I pressed the unlock button on the key fob and all 4 doors unlocked. Or is it not supposed to do that?

[BokTroy]

Originally Posted by SnowCover

I'm still not really sure what the unlock all door issue is?

Just tried it a couple of minutes ago. My X1('23 28i) was locked. I had the key fob in my pocket and my iPhone in my hand.

As soon as I entered the garage, the lights flashed and all the doors unlocked before I even touched the car.

I got in the car and turned the comfort access door unlock and lock both to off.

Got out and locked the car again. Then I pressed the unlock button on the key fob and all 4 doors unlocked. Or is it not supposed to do that?

When I had the X1 loaner, I think I had the exact issue OP suggested: comfort access is on, unlock all doors are checked. When I approached the car, lights flashes and when I try to open the driver side door the door is already unlocked and can be opened. But, rest of the door remained locked, that I have to unlock by pressing the switch on the driver door card. I found bizarre and thought it was probably a loaner issue since I actually tried to check and uncles that box a couple of times but it seems remain the logic of only for driver door.

[SnowCover]

Originally Posted by BokTroy

When I had the X1 loaner, I think I had the exact issue OP suggested: comfort access is on, unlock all doors are checked. When I approached the car, lights flashes and when I try to open the driver side door the door is already unlocked and can be opened. But, rest of the door remained locked, that I have to unlock by pressing the switch on the driver door card. I found bizarre and thought it was probably a loaner issue since I actually tried to check and uncles that box a couple of times but it seems remain the logic of only for driver door.

I did read what the OP said a few times. However, I can't seem to replicate that issue on my X1. Then a few other guys also said they had the same issue as the OP.

That really makes me wonder if my X1 is actually the one with the issues.(because maybe all the doors are not supposed to all unlock all the time like you guys described?)

I have gotten used to many weird glitches(or quirks) with my X1. Another just popped up this morning. The screen has a message that told me that the brake fluid change was overdue. Pretty sure it was a glitch because it said 26000 miles or something. Called my service advisor and they are also seeing that in their system when the punched in my VIN#. They said that unless I converted my X1 into a time machine and went through 26000 miles in a matter of weeks, it was definitely a glitch. I was told told to stop by so they can correct that glitch.

[BokTroy]

Originally Posted by SnowCover

I did read what the OP said a few times. However, I can't seem to replicate that issue on my X1. Then a few other guys also said they had the same issue as the OP.

That really makes me wonder if my X1 is actually the one with the issues.(because maybe all the doors are not supposed to all unlock all the time like you guys described?)

I have gotten used to many weird glitches(or quirks) with my X1. Another just popped up this morning. The screen has a message that told me that the brake fluid change was overdue. Pretty sure it was a glitch because it said 26000 miles or something. Called my service advisor and they are also seeing that in their system when the punched in my VIN#. They said that unless I converted my X1 into a time machine and went through 26000 miles in a matter of weeks, it was definitely a glitch. I was told told to stop by so they can correct that glitch.

Yeah iDrive9 does indeed has its unique glitches lol. Wonder if you have any issues where when you play music with CarPlay and you use some “resource intensive” features like Assist driving or back up assist etc. the music paused/cracked for a split second? This is my major issue when we had the loaner and my wife is thinking about purchasing X1/new X3 which both uses iDrive9. I hope it’s just a one off issue though.

[JK479]

Originally Posted by mic_crispy

Venting some frustrations here, but really considering selling my X1 M35 after just 7 months.

Primary reasons are:

'Unlock all doors' does not in fact, unlock all the doors. If you pull on the drivers handle, regardless if this is selected or not, only the drivers side unlocks. Without comfort access in the rear doors, this is actually pretty annoying, especially with two kids who are both still in carseats, so my hands are always full, and now i need to fish the key out of my pocket to open the rear doors. My car spent 2 weeks at the dealer for this, and they logged the issue, but cannot fix it. This is not the correct function and the other X1 they had was the same way.

iDrive latency, Android Auto/Carplay drops. As stated and very well documented on here.

Satellite Radio works 50% of the time. Been to the dealer multiple times for this, but it just randomly stops working.

Absolutely atrocious implementation of auto start/stop. This is also (presumably) exasperated by the DCT transmission needing to engage clutches... Yes, i know you can disable this.... but it has to be done every single time you get in the car. God forbid you forget once and tryin to jump in traffic with a 3-5 second delay. Its actually astonishing that this made it past development.

Having owned many new BMW's in the past, I'm very familiar with being a early adopter.. but the issues have never been this 'front and center'. Really ruins the driving experience.

At this point, I'm asking BMW to buy back the lease, so i can go get a x3 M40 with the older iDrive system.

Its a shame, [...]

I’m still so surprised the DCT is so awful in an otherwise great product.

Makes you think all EV on this car would fix the problem. Even if you are an ICE fan.

EV’s don’t have stop/start or lazy transmissions.

[mic_crispy]

Just an update for anyone who's interested.

Sold my X1 today back to a local BMW dealer.
Primary reasons was everything listed in my first post, plus the fact that it just didn't have enough length for our rear facing seat.

I got close on a x3 m40i, but it didn't really offer substantially more legroom. I did sit in the new x3 m50, but really didn't like the interior.
Ended up buying my wildcard pick ... V60 Recharge (polestar). The most attractive thing about it is the size.
At the end of the day, I really wanted something longer than the x1, but not taller or wider as I have limited width in my garage due to a lift.
I'm also not a big fan of SUVs in general, just a preference.

I'm a huge fan of wagons, but being in the US we have almost no options, with most being lifted versions of euro models (all road etc).

I was really hesitant about the v60, mainly due to giving up all the leading tech / features modern BMWs offer.
Still, i took the plunge and so far, im pretty blown away by how much i like this car.
The motor / power / drivetrain is absolutely fantastic and way more inline with what I had before (m340i).
The size is perfect, and after 10+ years daily driving BMW's, im really liking this Swedish take on luxury. Its different, less flashy, but great use of materials and simple / clean lines.
Another nice thing is the V60 is WAY better damped than the m35.. It simultaneously handles better, while being less 'crashy' over bumps. This is expected as this V60 comes with Ohlins, but still a huge plus.


Anyway, i still think the X1 is a good package. It really does ALOT with the wheelbase it has, and if you look at BMW's current lineup is one of their best looking models.
Its fun to drive, and has a really functional interior packed with alot of features.
Its just a shame its let down by the tranny tuning / engine tuning and persistent software bugs.

Some pics if you're curious:

[rittiej]

Nicely done. I regret buying my M35i. Quirky pain in the ass. Fun, but frustrating.
They dropped the ball on the car. Cheers on your new ride.

[mic_crispy]

Originally Posted by rittiej

Nicely done. I regret buying my M35i. Quirky pain in the ass. Fun, but frustrating.
They dropped the ball on the car. Cheers on your new ride.

I felt the same.
The residuals on them are still sorta high... Have you looked into selling? I walked away with some cash.

[Fish Fingers]

Originally Posted by JK479

I’m still so surprised the DCT is so awful in an otherwise great product.

Makes you think all EV on this car would fix the problem. Even if you are an ICE fan.

EV’s don’t have stop/start or lazy transmissions.

PHEV don't have the issue either.
Even in 'maintain battery' mode - which is mostly ICE, as it is still using the battery for accelerating etc, so no suffering with the lazy transmission.

[JK479]

Originally Posted by Fish Fingers

PHEV don't have the issue either.
Even in 'maintain battery' mode - which is mostly ICE, as it is still using the battery for accelerating etc, so no suffering with the lazy transmission.

That’s a good thing to know- it’s clumsy on a keep wrangler hybrid I am currently renting

[abrandonment]

Originally Posted by SnowCover

I just ordered a start & stop disable module. My friend has already used it for about a month without any issues. Will see how it goes when it arrives.

I know you said you decided not to do it but curious, where you ordered from. Link?

[SnowCover]

Originally Posted by abrandonment

I know you said you decided not to do it but curious, where you ordered from. Link?

my friend from overseas. was going to ask him to buy it and ship it to me. after hearing about the fiasco he went through, I changed my mind.

although if I'm not mistaken, Bimmercode is still telling people to wait for their own version of this module.... so I will wait for that one.

[abrandonment]

Originally Posted by SnowCover

my friend from overseas. was going to ask him to buy it and ship it to me. after hearing about the fiasco he went through, I changed my mind.

although if I'm not mistaken, Bimmercode is still telling people to wait for their own version of this module.... so I will wait for that one.

Do you mind putting me in touch? I would like one.. understanding the risks. ツ

[SnowCover]

Originally Posted by abrandonment

Do you mind putting me in touch? I would like one.. understanding the risks. ツ

this ebay seller posted here before... I just can't seem to remember where his post was. but his listing is still on eBay. (note: I have never dealt with this seller before, so I can't vouch for them)

https://www.ebay.com/itm/145892456507

[rittiej]

Going to look into dumping my M35i. Thinking 2025 Audi SQ5. Worried that might be a nightmare though…..