[Lady Jane]

Originally Posted by vreihen16

...and everyone knows that girls just swoon over diesel pickups.....

Okay, you've got me swooning. Now what???

[vreihen16]

Originally Posted by Lady Jane

Okay, you've got me swooning. Now what???


Attachment 3561320

The space in the back is where diesel truck owners expect all panties to be thrown.....

[Maynard]

Truth for sure. Because what girls REALLY swoon over is something that can move all their shit into a new apartment (I had a 240Z for the early college years, at least it wasn't that TR6 I'd been considering).

[vreihen16]

Originally Posted by Maynard

Truth for sure. Because what girls REALLY swoon over is something that can move all their shit into a new apartment (I had a 240Z for the early college years, at least it wasn't that TR6 I'd been considering).

I moved twice in my younger days, using only my VW GTI. My brother owned a 280Z, and I had to haul most of his stuff with my GTI as well when he moved.....

[F32Fleet]

Darwin Award

[Rickyef]

i’d like to clear things up about this post,(image of blue bmw around tree titled “17 year old gift from parents”) this happened in my hometown of Holland, Michigan nobody in the car other than the driver passed away. The driver was a 17 year-old boy. His parents own a pretty big bar in our town so they are known for having money, but they never really spoiled their kid with it to be honest. The kids parents were both out of country. I think it was like Mexico, but it might’ve been Europe. I’m not really sure but they weren’t there and the kid took the car out without his parents permission and was driving to church or youth group. It was like a Wednesday and there had been a crash on Lakewood Boulevard earlier that week which is where this crash happened, and there were all sorts of debris and things and I believe there was a large thing of oil or maybe coolant but either way the road was slick. Yes, he was going way too fast for the conditions. I’m sure it had rained the day before. but to all the people who are blaming their parents for this, that’s ridiculous to say they did not give him permission to drive the car, and both of the other teams that were in the car were in the backseat and did not end up having any long-term injuries all day they were in the ICU for one day just with brain trauma, but they literally were in school within the week. The kids suffer the consequences of his own actions, and that consequence was his life for anybody to go on here and talk about how it might have been other people’s problems or influences that caused him to make these decisions you’re just wrong . and people who are on here just spreading misinformation maybe do research before you actually make a post about something.

[Rickyef]

Originally Posted by Rickyef

i’d like to clear things up about this post, this happened in my hometown of Holland, Michigan nobody in the car other than the driver passed away. The driver was a 17 year-old boy. His parents own a pretty big bar in our town so they are known for having money, but they never really spoiled their kid with it to be honest. The kids parents were both out of country. I think it was like Mexico, but it might’ve been Europe. I’m not really sure but they weren’t there and the kid took the car out without his parents permission and was driving to church or youth group. It was like a Wednesday and there had been a crash on Lakewood Boulevard earlier that week which is where this crash happened, and there were all sorts of debris and things and I believe there was a large thing of oil or maybe coolant but either way the road was slick. Yes, he was going way too fast for the conditions. I’m sure it had rained the day before. but to all the people who are blaming their parents for this, that’s ridiculous to say they did not give him permission to drive the car, and both of the other teams that were in the car were in the backseat and did not end up having any long-term injuries all day they were in the ICU for one day just with brain trauma, but they literally were in school within the week. The kids suffer the consequences of his own actions, and that consequence was his life for anybody to go on here and talk about how it might have been other people’s problems or influences that caused him to make these decisions you’re just wrong . and people who are on here just spreading misinformation maybe do research before you actually make a post about something.

also, I thought I’d clarify that this was not his car. It was his father‘s and the keys weren’t necessarily accessible to him. They were put in his father‘s office before he left, and the kid took them out. I think it’s pretty easy to forget that this is a real person everybody’s talking about it like this kid didn’t lose his life and his parents aren’t going through a big tragedy. I’m sure his dad wishes he never bought that car and his mom wishes that he never did too.

[Watching The World Burn]

Originally Posted by Rickyef

i’d like to clear things up about this post, this happened in my hometown of Holland, Michigan nobody in the car other than the driver passed away. The driver was a 17 year-old boy. His parents own a pretty big bar in our town so they are known for having money, but they never really spoiled their kid with it to be honest. The kids parents were both out of country. I think it was like Mexico, but it might’ve been Europe. I’m not really sure but they weren’t there and the kid took the car out without his parents permission and was driving to church or youth group. It was like a Wednesday and there had been a crash on Lakewood Boulevard earlier that week which is where this crash happened, and there were all sorts of debris and things and I believe there was a large thing of oil or maybe coolant but either way the road was slick. Yes, he was going way too fast for the conditions. I’m sure it had rained the day before. but to all the people who are blaming their parents for this, that’s ridiculous to say they did not give him permission to drive the car, and both of the other teams that were in the car were in the backseat and did not end up having any long-term injuries all day they were in the ICU for one day just with brain trauma, but they literally were in school within the week. The kids suffer the consequences of his own actions, and that consequence was his life for anybody to go on here and talk about how it might have been other people’s problems or influences that caused him to make these decisions you’re just wrong . and people who are on here just spreading misinformation maybe do research before you actually make a post about something.

What post are you talking about? The first one? Where it says the passenger died? Quote your sources so we can figure out what you are referring to.

[Maynard]

Originally Posted by Rickyef

i’d like to clear things up about this post.....

First off, the underlying issue this post mainly discussed was when parents know their kid is a menace and still let them drive. But I think you are not correct, (lying? why?) because I'm seeing an obituary for the passenger, and a story that the driver plead guilty.

From the article:
Kiernan Tague, who was 16 when the accident happened, initially was charged with second-degree murder, but accepted a deal with the Wayne County Prosecutor's Office that ended with him pleading guilty to the lesser charge of vehicular manslaughter — a felony punishable by up to 15 years in prison.

But as Bob Dylan would say, take the rag away from your face, now aint the time for your tears.....

because article also says this ABOUT THE APP MOM PUT ON HIS PHONE BECAUSE SHE WAS SO WORRIED:
But this is the greatest crime — and it was preventable, predictable and inevitable," Vanker said through tears Friday, citing the driver's speeding habits that were captured on the Life360 app that his mom had placed on his phone.

According to police reports, cellphone exchanges and Life360 records obtained by the Free Press, in the weeks and months before the Nov. 17, 2023, fatal crash, Tague hit speeds of 127 mph, 143 mph, 102 mph, 150 mph and 155 mph — all on separate days — and also engaged in drag racing.

Perhaps most frustrating for the victim's family is that the driver's mom knew for months that her son was driving at speeds of over 150 mph, and texted him to slow down, yet never revoked his driving privileges when he was speeding around metro Detroit in an Audi sports coupe...But instead of taking her son's keys away, the victim's family argues, the mom went out and bought a faster and more tempting BMW sports car, which is what Tague was driving the night his friend died.

[and here it comes....]
Vanker and her family were so incensed by the mother's actions that they asked Wayne County Prosecutor Kym Worthy to charge the mom with involuntary manslaughter. Worthy denied their request to charge the mother, concluding the driver was the only one responsible for the tragedy that night, and that his mom did all she could to control her son.

“Parenting is hard in the best of circumstances," Worthy said in a statement after announcing her decision not to charge the mother. "Most parents do everything they can to mentor their children and steer them in the right direction. The juvenile respondent’s mother was no different. She took consistent, active steps to try to make sure that he stayed on the right path."

Ah, but you who philosophize disgrace
And criticize all fears
Bury the rag deep in your face
For now's the time for your tears

So is this all made up? fake news? I could only wish it were so.

https://www.dignitymemorial.com/obit...krell-11543652

https://lebronwire.usatoday.com/stor...h/80865007007/

[Rickyef]

Originally Posted by spazzyfry123

Apparently a 17 year old's birthday present.

Attachment 3559682

post that I am referring to in my attachment. I didn’t realize that the original post was a different incident of this car is about the incident. I’m talking. The car wasn’t a gift to him nor was it his car. “Saying I was giving out fake news, but it was just a misunderstanding that I attached it to the wrong post should’ve quoted this image. my fault.

[Rickyef]

Originally Posted by Maynard

First off, the underlying issue this post mainly discussed was when parents know their kid is a menace and still let them drive. But I think you are not correct, (lying? why?) because I'm seeing an obituary for the passenger, and a story that the driver plead guilty.

From the article:
Kiernan Tague, who was 16 when the accident happened, initially was charged with second-degree murder, but accepted a deal with the Wayne County Prosecutor's Office that ended with him pleading guilty to the lesser charge of vehicular manslaughter — a felony punishable by up to 15 years in prison.

But as Bob Dylan would say, take the rag away from your face, now aint the time for your tears.....

because article also says this ABOUT THE APP MOM PUT ON HIS PHONE BECAUSE SHE WAS SO WORRIED:
But this is the greatest crime — and it was preventable, predictable and inevitable," Vanker said through tears Friday, citing the driver's speeding habits that were captured on the Life360 app that his mom had placed on his phone.

According to police reports, cellphone exchanges and Life360 records obtained by the Free Press, in the weeks and months before the Nov. 17, 2023, fatal crash, Tague hit speeds of 127 mph, 143 mph, 102 mph, 150 mph and 155 mph — all on separate days — and also engaged in drag racing.

Perhaps most frustrating for the victim's family is that the driver's mom knew for months that her son was driving at speeds of over 150 mph, and texted him to slow down, yet never revoked his driving privileges when he was speeding around metro Detroit in an Audi sports coupe...But instead of taking her son's keys away, the victim's family argues, the mom went out and bought a faster and more tempting BMW sports car, which is what Tague was driving the night his friend died.

[and here it comes....]
Vanker and her family were so incensed by the mother's actions that they asked Wayne County Prosecutor Kym Worthy to charge the mom with involuntary manslaughter. Worthy denied their request to charge the mother, concluding the driver was the only one responsible for the tragedy that night, and that his mom did all she could to control her son.

“Parenting is hard in the best of circumstances," Worthy said in a statement after announcing her decision not to charge the mother. "Most parents do everything they can to mentor their children and steer them in the right direction. The juvenile respondent’s mother was no different. She took consistent, active steps to try to make sure that he stayed on the right path."

Ah, but you who philosophize disgrace
And criticize all fears
Bury the rag deep in your face
For now's the time for your tears

So is this all made up? fake news? I could only wish it were so.

https://www.dignitymemorial.com/obit...krell-11543652

https://lebronwire.usatoday.com/stor...h/80865007007/

I just quoted the image that I was referring to in a different thread. i can’t quote Multiple posts at once. But you can find a new source or something of the other if you just search up teen crash, Holland, Michigan. I didn’t realize that the post was attached to a different news article. I was on the second page and didn’t realize. my fault. https://whtc.com/2024/09/22/one-kill...nd-state-park/

[Rickyef]

Originally Posted by Watching The World Burn

What post are you talking about? The first one? Where it says the passenger died? Quote your sources so we can figure out what you are referring to.

just updated my post but also made another post with a link to a news partial - they never really made those close up photos of the accident public (not sure how anyone got ahold of this one)- i have other angles of it… but it never got put in a news articles because you can see the driver in it before he got removed from the car. if you zoom into the news partial i attached to the other post you can see the car in the back though.

https://whtc.com/2024/09/22/one-killed-two-critically-hurt-in-crash-near-holland-state-park/

[Rickyef]

[QUOTE=Maynard;31913073]First off, the underlying issue this post mainly discussed was when parents know their kid is a menace and still let them drive. But I think you are not correct, (lying? why?) because I'm seeing an obituary for the passenger, and a story that the driver plead guilty.

From the article:
Kiernan Tague, who was 16 when the accident happened, initially was charged with second-degree murder, but accepted a deal with the Wayne County Prosecutor's Office that ended with him pleading guilty to the lesser charge of vehicular manslaughter — a felony punishable by up to 15 years in prison.

But as Bob Dylan would say, take the rag away from your face, now aint the time for your tears.....

because article also says this ABOUT THE APP MOM PUT ON HIS PHONE BECAUSE SHE WAS SO WORRIED:
But this is the greatest crime — and it was preventable, predictable and inevitable," Vanker said through tears Friday, citing the driver's speeding habits that were captured on the Life360 app that his mom had placed on his phone.

According to police reports, cellphone exchanges and Life360 records obtained by the Free Press, in the weeks and months before the Nov. 17, 2023, fatal crash, Tague hit speeds of 127 mph, 143 mph, 102 mph, 150 mph and 155 mph — all on separate days — and also engaged in drag racing.

Perhaps most frustrating for the victim's family is that the driver's mom knew for months that her son was driving at speeds of over 150 mph, and texted him to slow down, yet never revoked his driving privileges when he was speeding around metro Detroit in an Audi sports coupe...But instead of taking her son's keys away, the victim's family argues, the mom went out and bought a faster and more tempting BMW sports car, which is what Tague was driving the night his friend died.

[and here it comes....]
Vanker and her family were so incensed by the mother's actions that they asked Wayne County Prosecutor Kym Worthy to charge the mom with involuntary manslaughter. Worthy denied their request to charge the mother, concluding the driver was the only one responsible for the tragedy that night, and that his mom did all she could to control her son.

“Parenting is hard in the best of circumstances," Worthy said in a statement after announcing her decision not to charge the mother. "Most parents do everything they can to mentor their children and steer them in the right direction. The juvenile respondent’s mother was no different. She took consistent, active steps to try to make sure that he stayed on the right path."

Ah, but you who philosophize disgrace
And criticize all fears
Bury the rag deep in your face
For now's the time for your tears

So is this all made up? fake news? I could only wish it were so.

https://www.dignitymemorial.com/obit...krell-11543652

[url]https://lebronwire.usatoday.com/story/news/local/michigan/wayne/2025/02/28/grosse-pointe-teen-pleads-guilty-105-mph-crash/80865007007/[/

I made a simple mistake in identifying the correct post that this feed was linked under. I figured everyone knew what I was referring to. Yes, that’s my mistake. However it’s insane of you to try and call me some sort of ““ philosophy, higher ground taker“ I knew this kid I had classes with him. I talked to him. We went to events together. He was in my friend groups came to my graduation party. His death was a huge toll on our community and for people to make posts without knowledge claiming that the car was a gift or his parents are as unresponsible as the original posts parents seem to be is just pathetic. Yeah the kid made an irresponsible decision. Definitely paid the price. But he was a very good person. Someone who barely ever broke the rules was extremely kind and a great student. I think it’s easy to forget that these are real people. their families are living on this day with the understanding that some of their actions could have maybe prevented the bad decision that he made. to reinforce the idea that it might have been their fault is cruel. it’s a tragedy no matter who’s “fault” it is. and playing the blame game isn’t going to help anyone.