11-01-2024, 04:39 PM | #1 |
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Downpipe compatibility?
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BMW leaser for the past 4 years, X3 m40i and now an X4 m40i. And now my X2 m35i is about to port in LA. I'm going to finance it, and for the first time do some typical vanilla flavored mods. I've attached a screenshot of an email I got from the guys at German Car Accessories, who just today suggested that the downpipe for the F39 is compatible with the U10. They used my VIN# to check. Their aftermarket catted unit happens to be $1000, meanwhile there's one for $380 on Alibaba. Anyway, does anyone have anything to comment about this? Does it check out? I hate to spend the $400+ only to have it not be compatible. And be stuck with it. And yes I'm giving up the b58 x4 intentionally. I like the size and the appearance of the X2 better. I also test drove one and felt that after it gets moving, it wasn't significantly slower than my x4. That being said... off the line is a different story! I will miss having my neck broken when launching. Anyway, thanks for any input! |
11-05-2024, 12:48 AM | #2 |
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I just purchased my x1 m35 and I was wondering the same thing about a downpipe. Could you please send me the alibaba link where you found the downpipe? Thank you.
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11-05-2024, 02:30 AM | #3 |
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I'm a bit skeptical about them being the same, though it *may* fit. Thing is, is that the X4 is a longitudinal oriented engine and RWD, and the X2 is a transverse mounted engine and FWD based. It might fit, or it might be off just slightly enough to cause problems installing it. If you want it that badly, you could take the chance and be the guinea pig for everyone else. $380 for a decent downpipe is cheap!
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Ahhh, gotcha. I guess I didn’t properly read that all the way through. It has a better chance of fitting, but still taking a chance.
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11-23-2024, 11:58 PM | #6 |
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Hey all!
First - the downpipe I bought is for an F39 X2, the previous generation. The OEM parts drawings of the F39 and the U10 stock downpipe are identical despite being different part numbers. So if there's a physical difference between them, it'll be minute. Which will make this that much more devastating. My car is scheduled for Monday Dec 2nd at 8am for lowering springs AND the downpipe. I may only leave with lowering springs. I may leave with the those and a downpipe. Stay tuned. If the downpipe fits, I'll broadcast the Alibaba link to the world!!!! Again $400 instead of $1000!! And the pipe is clean as hell. It's so pretty. I'll hang it on my wall if it don't fit. Check back in 10 days |
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11-24-2024, 01:02 PM | #8 |
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It's all speculation! I haven't done a deep dive to try and uncover a documented before/after Dyno on a b48 with downpipe, but I'm of the belief that 10-20hp is a reasonable expectation. And I reasonably expect a significant improvement to the exhaust note. You won't catch me modifying any other part of our stock exhaust system, so I'm banking on this baby to make our bark a little louder. Well OK I might remove a resonator from the mid pipe if I got desperate.
What will hold this mod back a little for me is that I'm not deleting the cat. I'm just too old to deal with the problems that come with deleting it. I care more about convenience and legality than a couple hp or a couple decibels. Anyway, we'll know in 8 days if this previous-gen downpipe works. Fingers crossed to the bone. I'm just worried sick that some angle or flange will be just barely different enough that it won't work. |
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I too wondered whether or not a retrofit would work. Eager to hear back on the results. |
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I've looked at countless diagrams and photos. While materials and trim of the stock downpipe have changed from old to new gen, the shape size and angulations all appear to be the same. Gaskets involved are the same, so that's promising. Anyway, the countdown is on. I'm being cautiously optimistic. |
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My shop evaluated the downpipe with the car up in the air, and they didn't feel confident about it working. They didn't want to rack up a bunch of charges tearing it apart when they had no confidence. Additionally, they said the cat was poor quality (damn you, China) and felt it was risky that it could throw a CEL.
So! We still don't know for certain if the F39 downpipe actually works. It still might. But I'm happy to not throw more money at it just in case with my shop not feeling good about it. Hell!!!! |
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12-04-2024, 12:55 AM | #15 |
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I picked the car up today after dropping it off yesterday, they finished putting my H&R lowering springs in. I had a chance to talk to him a little more about the downpipe. He said he had two main issues:
1) The exhaust flange on the end/exit of the downpipe is different. The F39 (and thus the downpipe I bought) terminates in a "v band" connection. Ours terminates (and meets the midpipe) with a tapered connection secured by like a band clamp. The flange could have been hacked up and modified but not ideal. 2) The cat itself. The new one from China that was built into the downpipe was homemade. Likely to throw a CEL, negating the point of having a catted downpipe. And so interestingly, I looked into this further... and it seems that the majority of aftermarket catted downpipes still throw a CEL because of the cat! I never knew this! It apparently takes a VERY high quality and/or 400+ cell catalytic converter for those O2 sensors to give the appropriate readings. So his reluctance probably saved me a world of heartache. And I am putting a downpipe on a low priority list that now requires a reputable company to market it specifically for the U10 and to guarantee it won't throw a CEL! Anyway, it was dark by the time I got the car so I couldn't take photos - but the springs dropped it by 1" and it looks slick as hell. So not all is lost! |
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