F1 Nurburgring

BudVlad · 07-10-2009, 10:43 AM

Circuit information

Length: 5.141km
Race distance: 67 laps / 344.916km
Full throttle: 62%
Top speed: 300kph
Longest flat-out section: 12s / 800m
Right/left-hand turns: 9/6
Tyre wear: Medium
Brake wear: High
Downforce level: Medium
Gear changes per lap: 58

BudVlad · 07-10-2009, 11:00 AM

Practice One - Webber and Red Bull lead the way

It was good and bad news for Red Bull Racing as the first practice session for the German Grand Prix got underway at the Nurburgring on Friday morning.

Mark Webber set the fastest time of 1m 33.082s in his RB5, but team mate Sebastian Vettel rolled to a halt with a mechanical problem shortly after lapping his sister car in 1m 33.909s. At the time that was second quickest, but he ended the session eighth overall.

1 M.Webber Red Bull 1:33.082
2 J.Button Brawn 1:33.463
3 F.Massa Ferrari 1:33.745.
4 J.Trulli Toyota 1:33.795
5 G.Fisichella Force India 1:33.839
6 K.Räikkönen Ferrari 1:33.840
7 N.Rosberg Williams 1:33.902
8 S.Vettel Red Bull 1:33.909
9 K.Nakadžima Williams 1:33.952
10 F.Alonso Renault 1:34.148
11 N.Heidfeld BMW 1:34.221
12 R.Barrichello Brawn 1:34.227
13 L.Hamilton McLaren 1:34.483
14 R.Kubica BMW 1:34.694
15 N.Piquet Renault 1:34.738
16 S.Bourdais Toro Rosso 1:34.827
17 S.Buemi Toro Rosso 1:34.878
18 H.Kovalainen McLaren 1:34.893
19 T.Glock Toyota 1:34.911
20 A.Sutil Force India 1:35.092

BudVlad · 07-10-2009, 11:16 AM

Hamilton sets pace in second practice

Lewis Hamilton set a surprise fastest time for McLaren at the end of Friday practice. In a mostly dry session under ominous skies, Hamilton managed to beat Red Bull's Sebastian Vettel by 0.182 seconds, with championship leader Jenson Button third.

1 L.Hamilton McLaren 1:32.149
2 S.Vettel Red Bull 1:32.331
3 J.Button Brawn 1:32.369
4 M.Webber Red Bull 1:32.480
5 J.Trulli Toyota 1:32.511
6 A.Sutil Force India 1:32.585
7 R.Barrichello Brawn 1:32.664
8 F.Alonso Renault 1:32.774
9 K.Nakadžima Williams 1:32.872
10 N.Piquet Renault 1:32.992
11 N.Heidfeld BMW 1:33.012
12 F.Massa Ferrari 1:33.052
13 N.Rosberg Williams 1:33.128
14 R.Kubica BMW 1:33.161
15 T.Glock Toyota 1:33.172
16 K.Räikkönen Ferrari 1:33.182
17 H.Kovalainen McLaren 1:33.724
18 S.Buemi Toro Rosso 1:33.903
19 S.Bourdais Toro Rosso 1:34.025
20 G.Fisichella Force India 1:38.877

E90SLAM · 07-10-2009, 12:39 PM

u just can't merge it into my thread....and have to start one which basically concern the same thing...." Formula 1 Grosser Preis Santander Von Deutschland 2009 "

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=279293

BudVlad · 07-10-2009, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by E90SLAM

u just can't merge it into my thread....and have to start one which basically concern the same thing...." Formula 1 Grosser Preis Santander Von Deutschland 2009 "

Sorry,
I just wonted to post practice results and your thread is mostly pictures.

E90SLAM · 07-10-2009, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by BudVlad

Sorry,
I just wonted to post practice results and your thread is mostly pictures.

I was trying to make a MAIN thread for every F1 races....

but its cool...this is an open forum....
and finally we can see some car actions again....
qualifying....if weather is warm...i do rekon Brawn will be top 5 as well as both RBR...

BudVlad · 07-11-2009, 06:51 AM

3rd practice –Saturday morning

It looks like McLaren driver Lewis Hamilton is back on the pace. The reigning world champion was once again the fastest driver in free practice. On Saturday morning he completed the fastest lap ahead of Fernando Alonso and Felipe Massa.
Championship leader Brawn had a troubled session. Jenson Button was only 11th, and complained over the radio of difficulty with low tyre temperatures and locking front brakes. Rubens Barrichello missed the first part of the session as his mechanics were still working on his car. Barrichello ended 14th in the session.

1 L.Hamilton McLaren 1:31.121
2 F.Alonso Renault 1:31.340
3 F.Massa Ferrari 1:31.351
4 S.Vettel Red Bull 1:31.542
5 M.Webber Red Bull 1:31.610
6 K.Räikkönen Ferrari 1:31.615
7 J.Trulli Toyota 1:31.620
8 N.Rosberg Williams 1:31.690
9 K.Nakadžima Williams 1:31.731
10 N.Heidfeld BMW 1:31.928
11 J.Button Brawn 1:32.009
12 T.Glock Toyota 1:32.022
13 A.Sutil Force India 1:32.104
14 R.Barrichello Brawn 1:32.124
15 G.Fisichella Force India 1:32.135
16 N.Piquet Renault 1:32.223
17 S.Buemi Toro Rosso 1:32.239
18 R.Kubica BMW 1:32.269
19 H.Kovalainen McLaren 1:32.742
20 S.Bourdais Toro Rosso 1:32.883

BTW I’m not going to post results of the qualification since some people watch it delayed and I don’t want to spoil the fun.

E90SLAM · 07-11-2009, 01:16 PM

After watching the qualifying sessions....as i heard the mclaren only have one set of aero upgrades for lewis...which the front wing channels air away from the car instead of pushing them into the rear wing....its from the CFD computer analysis and somehow the car is more manageable and works better for lewis....

BudVlad · 07-11-2009, 03:35 PM

Estimated first stops according to the fuel load

Lap 14: Button
Lap 15: Barrichello
Lap 18: Hamilton
Lap 21: Webber, Vettel, Fisichella, Glock
Lap 22: Kovalainen
Lap 24: Alonso
Lap 26: Massa, Raikkonen, Kubica, Buemi
Lap 27: Piquet
Lap 28: Sutil
Lap 29: Heidfeld
Lap 30: Nakajima, Trulli
Lap 32: Rosberg , Bourdais

FStop7 · 07-11-2009, 06:56 PM

Ouch. If that's true then Red Bull have completely overtaken Brawn in terms of car advantage. +7 laps of fuel yet qualified faster? Wow.

David Brent · 07-11-2009, 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by FStop7

Ouch. If that's true then Red Bull have completely overtaken Brawn in terms of car advantage. +7 laps of fuel yet qualified faster? Wow.

Yep. Probably a good strategy to go by Brawn to go light and get upfront. Given the weather, there's a decent chance everyone might have to pit early anyway

BudVlad · 07-12-2009, 02:57 AM

Adrian Sutil qualified quicker than the Ferrari cars despite carrying a greater amount of fuel!
Rubens Barrichello did likewise with team-mate Jenson Button, who will have the lightest car at the start of the race.

BudVlad · 07-12-2009, 03:03 AM

Penalties

Timo Glock has dropped from 19th to 20th after being penalised for blocking Renault’s Fernando Alonso during qualifying.

The Red Bull Racing team has been given a fine of €10,000 for an incident involving Sebastian Vettel during qualifying. During Q2 in which Vettel was judged to have been released into the path of Nakajima in the pit lane.

BudVlad · 07-12-2009, 04:33 AM

Forecast - wet race

It’s raining this Sunday morning at Nurburgring and similar conditions are expected to prevail throughout the day. Expected temperature 14 degrees Celsius!

WAY · 07-12-2009, 05:13 AM

I guess if Webber pulls out cleanly at the start, then it will be a challenge for Vettel to beat him for the win unless Vettel manages to overtake the Brawns at the start. It's been awhile since we've had a GP winner in F1, so all the Aussie F1 fans will be cheering on tv tonight! For some reason we are very good at producing motorcycle GP riders, but not so much F1 drivers lol.

BudVlad · 07-12-2009, 07:39 AM

I don’t think Vettel can overtake the Brawns. He is heavier and on the dirty side of the track. He may be overtaken by Hamilton who is on the cleaner side and using KERS. Unless rain will change everything.

KANdaddy · 07-12-2009, 09:48 PM

Nice race! Congrats to Webber! He deserved it

ianbiz · 07-13-2009, 02:34 AM

Good race, I was bummed out about Adrian Sutil. It would have been a great result for him and the team.

bobbynoway · 07-13-2009, 02:49 AM

Go Webber!
He was on a mission and nothing was going to stop him.

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BudVlad Old Geezer 386 Rep 1,196 Posts Drives: 08 E92 N53B30 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Budweis iTrader: (0) Garage List 2008 E92 N53B30 [10.00]	Practice One - Webber and Red Bull lead the way It was good and bad news for Red Bull Racing as the first practice session for the German Grand Prix got underway at the Nurburgring on Friday morning. Mark Webber set the fastest time of 1m 33.082s in his RB5, but team mate Sebastian Vettel rolled to a halt with a mechanical problem shortly after lapping his sister car in 1m 33.909s. At the time that was second quickest, but he ended the session eighth overall. 1 M.Webber Red Bull 1:33.082 2 J.Button Brawn 1:33.463 3 F.Massa Ferrari 1:33.745. 4 J.Trulli Toyota 1:33.795 5 G.Fisichella Force India 1:33.839 6 K.Räikkönen Ferrari 1:33.840 7 N.Rosberg Williams 1:33.902 8 S.Vettel Red Bull 1:33.909 9 K.Nakadžima Williams 1:33.952 10 F.Alonso Renault 1:34.148 11 N.Heidfeld BMW 1:34.221 12 R.Barrichello Brawn 1:34.227 13 L.Hamilton McLaren 1:34.483 14 R.Kubica BMW 1:34.694 15 N.Piquet Renault 1:34.738 16 S.Bourdais Toro Rosso 1:34.827 17 S.Buemi Toro Rosso 1:34.878 18 H.Kovalainen McLaren 1:34.893 19 T.Glock Toyota 1:34.911 20 A.Sutil Force India 1:35.092 __________________
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BudVlad Old Geezer 386 Rep 1,196 Posts Drives: 08 E92 N53B30 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Budweis iTrader: (0) Garage List 2008 E92 N53B30 [10.00]	Hamilton sets pace in second practice Lewis Hamilton set a surprise fastest time for McLaren at the end of Friday practice. In a mostly dry session under ominous skies, Hamilton managed to beat Red Bull's Sebastian Vettel by 0.182 seconds, with championship leader Jenson Button third. 1 L.Hamilton McLaren 1:32.149 2 S.Vettel Red Bull 1:32.331 3 J.Button Brawn 1:32.369 4 M.Webber Red Bull 1:32.480 5 J.Trulli Toyota 1:32.511 6 A.Sutil Force India 1:32.585 7 R.Barrichello Brawn 1:32.664 8 F.Alonso Renault 1:32.774 9 K.Nakadžima Williams 1:32.872 10 N.Piquet Renault 1:32.992 11 N.Heidfeld BMW 1:33.012 12 F.Massa Ferrari 1:33.052 13 N.Rosberg Williams 1:33.128 14 R.Kubica BMW 1:33.161 15 T.Glock Toyota 1:33.172 16 K.Räikkönen Ferrari 1:33.182 17 H.Kovalainen McLaren 1:33.724 18 S.Buemi Toro Rosso 1:33.903 19 S.Bourdais Toro Rosso 1:34.025 20 G.Fisichella Force India 1:38.877 __________________
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BudVlad Old Geezer 386 Rep 1,196 Posts Drives: 08 E92 N53B30 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Budweis iTrader: (0) Garage List 2008 E92 N53B30 [10.00]	3rd practice –Saturday morning It looks like McLaren driver Lewis Hamilton is back on the pace. The reigning world champion was once again the fastest driver in free practice. On Saturday morning he completed the fastest lap ahead of Fernando Alonso and Felipe Massa. Championship leader Brawn had a troubled session. Jenson Button was only 11th, and complained over the radio of difficulty with low tyre temperatures and locking front brakes. Rubens Barrichello missed the first part of the session as his mechanics were still working on his car. Barrichello ended 14th in the session. 1 L.Hamilton McLaren 1:31.121 2 F.Alonso Renault 1:31.340 3 F.Massa Ferrari 1:31.351 4 S.Vettel Red Bull 1:31.542 5 M.Webber Red Bull 1:31.610 6 K.Räikkönen Ferrari 1:31.615 7 J.Trulli Toyota 1:31.620 8 N.Rosberg Williams 1:31.690 9 K.Nakadžima Williams 1:31.731 10 N.Heidfeld BMW 1:31.928 11 J.Button Brawn 1:32.009 12 T.Glock Toyota 1:32.022 13 A.Sutil Force India 1:32.104 14 R.Barrichello Brawn 1:32.124 15 G.Fisichella Force India 1:32.135 16 N.Piquet Renault 1:32.223 17 S.Buemi Toro Rosso 1:32.239 18 R.Kubica BMW 1:32.269 19 H.Kovalainen McLaren 1:32.742 20 S.Bourdais Toro Rosso 1:32.883 BTW I’m not going to post results of the qualification since some people watch it delayed and I don’t want to spoil the fun. __________________
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E90SLAM Supreme Allied Commander 2031 Rep 61,781 Posts Drives: A BBS WHORE Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: . iTrader: (6) Garage List 2022 BMW X3 sDrive30i [0.00]	After watching the qualifying sessions....as i heard the mclaren only have one set of aero upgrades for lewis...which the front wing channels air away from the car instead of pushing them into the rear wing....its from the CFD computer analysis and somehow the car is more manageable and works better for lewis.... __________________
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BudVlad Old Geezer 386 Rep 1,196 Posts Drives: 08 E92 N53B30 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Budweis iTrader: (0) Garage List 2008 E92 N53B30 [10.00]	Estimated first stops according to the fuel load Lap 14: Button Lap 15: Barrichello Lap 18: Hamilton Lap 21: Webber, Vettel, Fisichella, Glock Lap 22: Kovalainen Lap 24: Alonso Lap 26: Massa, Raikkonen, Kubica, Buemi Lap 27: Piquet Lap 28: Sutil Lap 29: Heidfeld Lap 30: Nakajima, Trulli Lap 32: Rosberg , Bourdais __________________
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FStop7 I like cars 344 Rep 5,051 Posts Drives: M6 Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Newbury Park, CA iTrader: (3)	Ouch. If that's true then Red Bull have completely overtaken Brawn in terms of car advantage. +7 laps of fuel yet qualified faster? Wow. __________________ My photostream: http://www.flickr.com/photos/racelap/
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BudVlad Old Geezer 386 Rep 1,196 Posts Drives: 08 E92 N53B30 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Budweis iTrader: (0) Garage List 2008 E92 N53B30 [10.00]	Adrian Sutil qualified quicker than the Ferrari cars despite carrying a greater amount of fuel! Rubens Barrichello did likewise with team-mate Jenson Button, who will have the lightest car at the start of the race. __________________
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BudVlad Old Geezer 386 Rep 1,196 Posts Drives: 08 E92 N53B30 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Budweis iTrader: (0) Garage List 2008 E92 N53B30 [10.00]	Penalties Timo Glock has dropped from 19th to 20th after being penalised for blocking Renault’s Fernando Alonso during qualifying. The Red Bull Racing team has been given a fine of €10,000 for an incident involving Sebastian Vettel during qualifying. During Q2 in which Vettel was judged to have been released into the path of Nakajima in the pit lane. __________________
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BudVlad Old Geezer 386 Rep 1,196 Posts Drives: 08 E92 N53B30 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Budweis iTrader: (0) Garage List 2008 E92 N53B30 [10.00]	Forecast - wet race It’s raining this Sunday morning at Nurburgring and similar conditions are expected to prevail throughout the day. Expected temperature 14 degrees Celsius! __________________
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WAY Brigadier General 464 Rep 4,822 Posts Drives: Fast ones Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Melbourne, Australia iTrader: (0)	I guess if Webber pulls out cleanly at the start, then it will be a challenge for Vettel to beat him for the win unless Vettel manages to overtake the Brawns at the start. It's been awhile since we've had a GP winner in F1, so all the Aussie F1 fans will be cheering on tv tonight! For some reason we are very good at producing motorcycle GP riders, but not so much F1 drivers lol.
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BudVlad Old Geezer 386 Rep 1,196 Posts Drives: 08 E92 N53B30 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Budweis iTrader: (0) Garage List 2008 E92 N53B30 [10.00]	I don’t think Vettel can overtake the Brawns. He is heavier and on the dirty side of the track. He may be overtaken by Hamilton who is on the cleaner side and using KERS. Unless rain will change everything. __________________ Last edited by BudVlad; 07-12-2009 at 07:55 AM..
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ianbiz Back in a BMW 208 Rep 5,208 Posts Drives: 2015 335i Msport Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Dallas, TX iTrader: (8)	Good race, I was bummed out about Adrian Sutil. It would have been a great result for him and the team. __________________ Ian
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bobbynoway Private First Class 5 Rep 186 Posts Drives: 135i Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Sydney iTrader: (0)	Go Webber! He was on a mission and nothing was going to stop him.
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