2023 3.0 CSL BMW prototype spied from every angle [updated with Nurburgring video]

Sedan_Clan · 10-18-2022, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by RugbyBro

I'll just throw out there that they made a manual for F10 M5 and F13 M6… both have 500 ft/lbs of torque. If BMW actually wanted to put a manual in G8X competition, they could have. I doubt the manual in the CSL is very different from what you found in F8X & G8X.

I agree. The same applies to the E46 CSL too. BMW could've built that with a manual. It was a conscious decision not to.

10" · 10-18-2022, 08:52 PM

rear definitely has the Hommage chaos, but wish they would replicate its old school lines too!

carjoy · 10-18-2022, 08:59 PM

Looks like a squashed roach with a spoiler

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TargaM2 · 10-18-2022, 09:22 PM

Gearbox will differ as this uses a transaxle arrangement, i doubt grille will populate other models also as this car is supposedly completely carbon panelled. This is a bespoke car despite the 4 series underpinnings thus i dont see much at all filtering down.
BTW For this sort of money I think this car should have been outsourced to an independant designer for a complete new look to enforce the bespoke element, rather than just use a rehashed design of a G82, we have the CSL already for that.

ThesaVeliona · 10-19-2022, 04:33 AM

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Originally Posted by n55f15

People on this forum will never be satisfied

I mean, we all have something to conplain about *ahem, the XM and M2, ahem*. I can't wait for E46 CSL owners to go like "Thank god I got mine!"

Tr4ckD4ys · 10-19-2022, 04:47 AM

Let's keep in mind that BMWs current design boss and his right hand are outspoken enemies of Hofmeister design language. They are literally on a mission to undo the typical BMW design cues to allow for "fresh & new" ideas.

In other words, their arrogant, megalomaniac egos to put their finger print on the cars is costing BMW its identity BUT will also increase its sales in the regions that matter most to an identity-less BMW.

VIERsr · 10-19-2022, 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Veliona Vollerei

I mean, we all have something to conplain about *ahem, the XM and M2, ahem*. I can't wait for E46 CSL owners to go like "Thank god I got mine!"

I am sure that all those who complain about this car are missed potential buyers of this 700k car

vinny84 · 10-19-2022, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Veliona Vollerei

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Originally Posted by n55f15

People on this forum will never be satisfied

I mean, we all have something to conplain about *ahem, the XM and M2, ahem*. I can't wait for E46 CSL owners to go like "Thank god I got mine!"

That's me except I don't have an E46 CSL

Hit_Apex · 10-19-2022, 10:31 AM

Are clues on when the reveal will happen?

Mingwan · 10-20-2022, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by emulajavi

Hood line placed correctly!

If they can place it correctly here there’s no reason for them to having placed it in the middle of nowhere on the M4.

This cannot be overstated!

mbanck · 11-01-2022, 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Mingwan

This cannot be overstated!

Best bet is that the 3.0 CSL is exempt from crash safety regulations that allows for that hoodline, either because it is not street legal, or because only around 50 will be built.

xlover · 11-01-2022, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by mbanck

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Originally Posted by Mingwan

This cannot be overstated!

Best bet is that the 3.0 CSL is exempt from crash safety regulations that allows for that hoodline, either because it is not street legal, or because only around 50 will be built.

I think it's already been confirmed that this will not be street legal in the US and any US owners are just going to be importers with show car paperwork

MadBimmeRad · 11-01-2022, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by xlover

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Originally Posted by mbanck

Best bet is that the 3.0 CSL is exempt from crash safety regulations that allows for that hoodline, either because it is not street legal, or because only around 50 will be built.

I think it's already been confirmed that this will not be street legal in the US and any US owners are just going to be importers with show car paperwork

I'm not sure if any were actually destined for the US at all

xlover · 11-01-2022, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by MadBimmeRad

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Originally Posted by xlover

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Originally Posted by "mbanck;29501704"

Best bet is that the 3.0 CSL is exempt from crash safety regulations that allows for that hoodline, either because it is not street legal, or because only around 50 will be built.

I think it's already been confirmed that this will not be street legal in the US and any US owners are just going to be importers with show car paperwork

I'm not sure if any were actually destined for the US at all

I can't imagine a us collector or two didn't get their hands on one considering it's a 1 off car they are just going to sit in collections anyway not registered to be driven

Sedan_Clan · 11-01-2022, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by xlover

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Originally Posted by MadBimmeRad

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Originally Posted by xlover

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Originally Posted by "mbanck;29501704"

Best bet is that the 3.0 CSL is exempt from crash safety regulations that allows for that hoodline, either because it is not street legal, or because only around 50 will be built.

I think it's already been confirmed that this will not be street legal in the US and any US owners are just going to be importers with show car paperwork

I'm not sure if any were actually destined for the US at all

I can't imagine a us collector or two didn't get their hands on one considering it's a 1 off car they are just going to sit in collections anyway

If/when they do, they'll be registered as collector's cars and I believe they are limited to a small amount of accrued mileage per year.

xlover · 11-01-2022, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

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Originally Posted by xlover

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Originally Posted by MadBimmeRad

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Originally Posted by xlover

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Originally Posted by "mbanck;29501704"

Best bet is that the 3.0 CSL is exempt from crash safety regulations that allows for that hoodline, either because it is not street legal, or because only around 50 will be built.

I think it's already been confirmed that this will not be street legal in the US and any US owners are just going to be importers with show car paperwork

I'm not sure if any were actually destined for the US at all

I can't imagine a us collector or two didn't get their hands on one considering it's a 1 off car they are just going to sit in collections anyway

If/when they do, they'll be registered as collector's cars and I believe they are limited to a small amount of accrued mileage per year.

Exactly, country of origin won't matter at that point

Sedan_Clan · 11-05-2022, 04:47 AM

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Originally Posted by ladkii

Wow, no hofmesiter kink on a 3.0 CSL? Am I seeing this right?

Why would the design be any different than the G8X it is based on?

n55f15 · 11-06-2022, 08:20 PM

Any idea when the reveal for this is? I read November awhile back, but haven't heard anything recently

BMWGirlFL · 11-08-2022, 06:19 PM

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Limited Edition BMW 3.0 CSL Spied in Germany Days Before Unveil

https://www.bmwblog.com/2022/11/08/l...n-bmw-3-0-csl/

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rosemont83 · 11-08-2022, 06:30 PM

Does this have a different manual transmission than what's in the M3 and M4?

n55f15 · 11-16-2022, 09:46 AM

VIERsr · 11-24-2022, 02:39 AM

560hp and 1624kg https://www.bmw-m.com/en/all-models/...w-3-0-csl.html

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