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      09-22-2024, 09:57 AM   #221
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That point is important if Lando win's all from now and Max gets 2nd all from now.
But as PIA also has a way faster car, there will be races that McLaren gets 1-2's. And I expect Max to get another engine in the pool.
So I'm pretty sure Max won't get the WDC this year.
We'll see how MAX's reworked car is at Austin.
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LAP 50 = A puncture for Kmag !
and Checo still finished behind him ?
* oops for some reason I read KMags instead of Hulk'.

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That point is important if Lando win's all from now and Max gets 2nd all from now.
But as PIA also has a way faster car, there will be races that McLaren gets 1-2's. And I expect Max to get another engine in the pool.
So I'm pretty sure Max won't get the WDC this year.
A lot of scenarios will come into play and a lot of decisions will have to be made. McLaren has to be all-in with Lando for WDC at this point, I don’t see how they don’t back him unless there’s something else in play that we’re not privy to.

On that same point, RB has to approaching budget restrictions, but would they throw everything at Max’s RB20 and leave Checo’s RB20 as is or as a test car for any upgrades to keep Max as competitive to Lando?

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That point is important if Lando win's all from now and Max gets 2nd all from now.
But as PIA also has a way faster car, there will be races that McLaren gets 1-2's. And I expect Max to get another engine in the pool.
So I'm pretty sure Max won't get the WDC this year.
But..... does Lando have the consistency??
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That point is important if Lando win's all from now and Max gets 2nd all from now.
But as PIA also has a way faster car, there will be races that McLaren gets 1-2's. And I expect Max to get another engine in the pool.
So I'm pretty sure Max won't get the WDC this year.
On the other hand : Lando can need another Merc PU as well ..
Hopefully not , but Lando can get a DNF .
Today it was already close as he brushed the wall twice (!)
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But..... does Lando have the consistency??
If Lando can manage his starts, assuming he qualifies for the front row, he just needs to let his car do all the work and manage his race because the MCL 38 allows him to do that - there’s nothing on the grid, driver + car, that can really compete with. But that’s a huge IF.
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On the other hand : Lando can need another Merc PU as well ..
Hopefully not , but Lando can get a DNF .
Today it was already close as he brushed the wall twice (!)
Dan got the FL thank goodness so the gap is 52 points to LAN, disappointed with Checo more and more AND this is a street circuit.
*changed to 52 points

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We'll see how MAX's reworked car is at Austin.
Can be a hit or a miss . It's like a shot in the dark

IMHO . I don't think that Red Bull can close a 30 sec. race gap to the McLaren Papaya bullet ..
In some laps Lando was 1 sec. faster (!)
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On the other hand : Lando can need another Merc PU as well ..
Hopefully not , but Lando can get a DNF .
Today it was already close as he brushed the wall twice (!)
All true, of course Lando (and McLaren themselves) can't make any mistakes. But Max can't make them either.
And indeed we don't know if RB is gonna bring meaningful upgrades, but as they don't fully understand their car's imbalance, I think all upgrades are partly shots in the dark.

McLaren have 2 vastly superior cars and 2 competent drivers, so I think there will be races where they get 1-2's (with obviously Lando 1st), and Max just can't fight that.
The McLaren is just fast on every track. PIA today didn't came 2nd because he made mistakes. Mistakes in qualifying and mistakes at the start. Not because he was too slow in general.
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But..... does Lando have the consistency??
Dan gets Driver Of The Day award.
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I wouldn't worry about it.

The Mclaren gap was expected as Redbull worst track was Singapore.

However on traditional tracks like COTA, we will see max fight lando in an upgraded car, and they seemed to figure out how to make that RBR car turn and be more comfortable with max.

Baku showed us that Mclaren isn't unstoppable, and it's the same car for singapore.

This race was a win for RBR, huge win.

They only lost 7 points when they were expected to lose 10+

Now lando needs more than 10 points a race to win the WDC.

They lost a total of 10 points over 2 races, and we might see Mercedes and Ferrari competitive with their upgrades at COTA.
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Everyone up to Sainz was lapped ?? WTH is going on with the others.
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MAX was the real winner here with the MAX FACTOR 1
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What a boring race. Norris made too many mistakes in my opinion. He was lucky that he didn't have any damage. McLaren was very dominant today, but wasn't last week. I don't see Norris winning every race to come, but I don't expect Verstappen to be second every race either. So gonna be an exciting couple of races to come.
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21 seconds. No car factor, no max factor.

Funny, not much swearing today. It must not be important for driving.
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21 seconds. No car factor, no max factor.

Funny, not much swearing today. It must not be important for driving.
Checo is P10 in the same RB20 car and Checo was lapped (!)
Then you should know what the MAX-Factor is ...
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