[BMWjunkie]

Originally Posted by frankchn

Adrian van Hooydonk is probably used to controversy. Remember the E65 7-Series with the flame surfacing and "Bangle Butt"? van Hooydonk was the lead designer for that vehicle.

People really hated that design when it first came out, but I think it has aged decently well. I suspect we will see something similar with the new grills.

The Bangle butt didn't really age well, it was toned down and better integrated in succeeding designs.

[BMWjunkie]

Originally Posted by enigma99a

I'm a F80 M3 Competition owner. Was planning on getting the new M3 in a year or so, but with this confirmed design, I'm out. Too damn ugly for me.

Probably just going to hang onto my M3 for a while, maybe pick up a Porsche. Probably my only two options at the moment.

I'm in same boat and thought process. If the next M3 gets this design and not just the M4, then I'm pretty much done with it. I'll hold on to my F80 until the next-gen Tesla's come out! But I'll be keeping my beautiful, classically-styled Ferrari 458 forever! There's design and there's beauty, the 458 shows you can do both. BMW has lost that.

[///M TOWN]

Originally Posted by paliknight

That's what I was also thinking, but then it would need to be shaped for it (outlined). Once its released it'll reveal more. It just doesn't look too good, but I hope I'm wrong.

So more likely then not, it will be something like this...

An area in the middle that's clearly designed to hold a license plate.

I'm not exactly sure how BMW intends to pull that off with their conjoined kidney design.

[Fuller]

Originally Posted by M0011

Where else am I going to say it? At Target?

Yes! If you're there with your family, friends, or those who know you, and might care about which car you're going to buy. You could also just buy whatever car you intend to buy, and then post a review here at bimmerpost, perhaps comparing it to bmw models that you've driven. That could be interesting and informative content.

[classyfast]

Of course the designer is going to defend that ugly shit. All good, they'll fire the whole crew and start again, those bmw guys will go to Japanese companies and the cycle will continue.

[IM2C]

Originally Posted by Fuller

Yes! If you're there with your family, friends, or those who know you, and might care about which car you're going to buy. You could also just buy whatever car you intend to buy, and then post a review here at bimmerpost, perhaps comparing it to bmw models that you've driven. That could be interesting and informative content.

Let me get the crayons and explain it to you.

I'll be generous and assume that you are not a troll. Me not intending to buy the Frankengrille is ONE data point for BMW. That's it. I made that very clear. You follow so far?

Been on the forum since 2005. Do the math. This is the e-place where we come to discuss BMW crap with like minded individuals.

So next time you are at Walmart, do the same. MBMWGA.

[clee1982]

Originally Posted by BMWjunkie

I'm in same boat and thought process. If the next M3 gets this design and not just the M4, then I'm pretty much done with it. I'll hold on to my F80 until the next-gen Tesla's come out! But I'll be keeping my beautiful, classically-styled Ferrari 458 forever! There's design and there's beauty, the 458 shows you can do both. BMW has lost that.

I don't know I like 355/360/430 and pretty much ends there...

[CigarPundit]

It's like he took his design cues from one of photo shopped gag photos on here. Ugly grille. Not even debatable.

[Hellrot]

Originally Posted by 535i MSport

Good question. Need to drop by the Chinese takeaway and ask.

They do a mean Kung Po chicken 🐔....🤣

It's an honest question. I've seen this said a couple of times in this thread with no evidence.

[Drv4fun]

The Good:

The Bad:

and the Ugly:

[thebmw]

True story. My teenager asked me yesterday "what car is that?". I said it's the new 7-series. He said "that is the ugliest car". So Huey-doinky is simply wrong with all generations: Baby Boomers, Gen X, Gen Y, Millennials, and now Gen Z. They all hate the stupid big grilles. Maybe the Chinese asked for them, but not the rest of the world. Seems like BMW bends over for the Chinese like the NBA does!

[535i MSport]

Originally Posted by Hellrot

It's an honest question. I've seen this said a couple of times in this thread with no evidence.

Very true, which is why I made a joke of it.😉

Because no one here actually knows.

[Darth One]

Originally Posted by Hellrot

It's an honest question. I've seen this said a couple of times in this thread with no evidence.

Originally Posted by 535i MSport

Very true, which is why I made a joke of it.😉

Because no one here actually knows.

i've been asking this multiple times as well. no one replies with facts yet the same meme is parroted over and over. it's even in a post sandwiched between your two posts!

it's starting to sound a little derisive since the implication is clearly being cast that the Chinese have what the rest of us would consider terrible taste.

[SteveinArizona]

Originally Posted by Darth One

i've been asking this multiple times as well. no one replies with facts yet the same meme is parroted over and over. it's even in a post sandwiched between your two posts!

it's starting to sound a little derisive since the implication is clearly being cast that the Chinese have what the rest of us would consider terrible taste.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/ch...les-2012-05-05

https://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/20...esigning-cars/

https://www.carthrottle.com/post/the...e-west-thinks/

https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/auto...lle/ar-AADt9Mr

Google is your friend.

[thebmw]

Originally Posted by SteveinArizona

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/ch...les-2012-05-05

https://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/20...esigning-cars/

https://www.carthrottle.com/post/the...e-west-thinks/

https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/auto...lle/ar-AADt9Mr

Google is your friend.

People are so afraid of the truth if it's even remotely considered offensive. The reality is, if someone has bad taste, they own it, not the person pointing it out! The other reality is, the whole world bows to communism now. Good luck to us all...

[535i MSport]

Originally Posted by thebmw

People are so afraid of the truth if it's even remotely considered offensive. The reality is, if someone has bad taste, they own it, not the person pointing it out! The other reality is, the whole world bows to communism now. Good luck to us all...

Give me strength....

But "rest of the world" sales must mean something...?🙁🤔

Look at this joke! 🤮🤮🤮🤮🤮

[ausdude]

I’m thrilled the series no longer so similar year after year.

[thebmw]

Originally Posted by 535i MSport

Give me strength....

But "rest of the world" sales must mean something...?����

Look at this joke! ����������

In the articles, it states that the Chinese consider ostentatiousness and gaudiness with status and power. Some of us have evolved from that and realize that true class is how we respect ourselves and others, i.e. treat everyone equally (until they have given us a reason not to) and stand up against things like child slavery and human trafficking.

[535i MSport]

Originally Posted by thebmw

In the articles, it states that the Chinese consider ostentatiousness and gaudiness with status and power. Some of us have evolved from that and realize that true class is how we respect ourselves and others, i.e. treat everyone equally (until they have given us a reason not to) and stand up against things like child slavery and human trafficking.

Have you read about the opium wars? If Trump read about them, it might give him some ideas.

[KoenG]

Originally Posted by thebmw

True story. My teenager asked me yesterday "what car is that?". I said it's the new 7-series. He said "that is the ugliest car". So Huey-doinky is simply wrong with all generations: Baby Boomers, Gen X, Gen Y, Millennials, and now Gen Z. They all hate the stupid big grilles. Maybe the Chinese asked for them, but not the rest of the world. Seems like BMW bends over for the Chinese like the NBA does!

My 2 sons of 11 and 13 reacted also with total unbelieve the first time they saw the 7 LCI. I have the same conviction then you: they try to work the Asian market and believe that the decay in their traditional markets will remain acceptable. I doubt this... seriously.

[thebmw]

Originally Posted by 535i MSport

Have you read about the opium wars? If Trump read about them, it might give him some ideas.

Yes, not only are they killing us with counterfeit medications and counterfeit fentanyl, they are killing us with their awful taste is design, style, cars, and quality. Again, good luck to us all!

[KoenG]

Originally Posted by IK6SPEED

My point is simple....that what you claim to be a BMW failure was not.

No Corporate Head of a Public Company would dare continue full steam ahead on a program that was seen as a Company "failure".

Maybe, you missed a few news updates? They kicked out their CEO because his lack of grid on the EV program. And when you look at their product roadmap, it's clear that they have been sleeping a couple of years. Not?

Also, when EV is the future, what's the point getting people ready for these oversized grills? They will vanish with electrification within a delay of a decade anyhow.