[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Well my friend . If Bottas didn't got a DNF , he ended up ahead of MAX because his Merc is faster .

So , Bottas ( #grandma ) is also a GOAT !

Suspected mgu-h failure so the media is guessing but no doubt our relentless 'physics' expert will have a take on that heheheh

[5.M0NSTER]

Originally Posted by M5theonlyone

Suspected mgu-h failure so the media is guessing but no doubt our relentless 'physics' expert will have a take on that heheheh

See, unlike you I need data to reach conclusions. Which is why I modified B’s original post to make it factually correct. I have no comment on what happened to BOT, as I have no data. Do you?

But is it true that the other Red Bull car was retired because others were racing against it too hard?

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by MKSixer

Stewart has hated HAM since Lewis refused to take his advice on driving and managing his racing career. And it's a good thing he did not do so.

More on Jackie Stewart. He's like a broken clock. Right 2x per day but not much else. Spectacularly wrong.

https://andyyounggp.wordpress.com/20...e-to-mercedes/

You are putting up the evidence of someone who has been so wrong that it beggars belief.

As I said before, denigrating HAM does not make Max better.

There you go with your hate word again, snap out of it mate, it must be on top of your vocab list. Sir Jackie has said he is only winning because of unfair advantage which is true so live with it.

[5.M0NSTER]

Originally Posted by M5theonlyone

There you go with your hate word again, snap out of it mate, it must be on top of your vocab list. Sir Jackie has said he is only winning because of unfair advantage which is true so live with it.

So the 3x champ is knocking the 6x champ in war of words, and you think this means anything?

Laughable. As I said in my last reply to you when you used the same BS argument. If you think words are proof, than prove it. Stop humiliating yourself.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by 5.M0NSTER

So the 3x champ is knocking the 6x champ in war of words, and you think this means anything?

Laughable. As I said in my last reply to you when you used the same BS argument. If you think words are proof, than prove it. Stop humiliating yourself.

Blowing it all out of proportion as usual and stop holding someone else's hand, let them reply.Your the embarrassment with egg on your face.

[5.M0NSTER]

And you seem to have picked up the English Special “spotted dick” on yours.

I mean it’s so easy to own you in a debate setting. How can I resist??

Relentless.

[Top speed]

Originally Posted by M5theonlyone

There you go with your hate word again, snap out of it mate, it must be on top of your vocab list. Sir Jackie has said he is only winning because of unfair advantage which is true so live with it.

By Jackie steward stating that doesn't make it fact and we don't have to live with it because he seems to say this about other great drivers as well.

Here's what the very same Jackie Steward said about Schumacher and it sounds very familiar.

Stewart added that Schumacher also had an advantage of racing with the best car on the grid during his time with Ferrari.

Sir Jackie Stewart does not believe that Michael Schumacher is the greatest Formula 1 driver of all time.
"Michael's record in F1, particularly his Ferrari period, was so dominant because the car and engine was unquestionably the best on the grid and there was no doubt about who was number one and got most attention in the team," he said.

He also goes on to state:
His record will, I think, remain unbroken forever," Stewart told BBC Sport. "He's one of the greatest drivers of all time, although it's not possible to say he's the greatest.

Same comments different drivers.

[Top speed]

Sir Jackie Steward responded to LH comments today:

Responding, Stewart told the PA news agency: “I am not trying to diminish Lewis Hamilton and I hold his performances with incredible respect. He is the best driver of the present time.

So once again, just to be clear Sir Jackie
Steward unequivocally states that LH is the best driver of the present time.

So I suppose we have to live with it.

[5.M0NSTER]

Originally Posted by Top speed

Sir Jackie Steward responded to LH comments today:

Responding, Stewart told the PA news agency: “I am not trying to diminish Lewis Hamilton and I hold his performances with incredible respect. He is the best driver of the present time.

So once again, just to be clear Sir Jackie
Steward unequivocally states that LH is the best driver of the present time.

So I suppose we have to live with it.

Fantastic. I'm glad we put it all behind us now.

However. All of this is still an opinion, and no one with a shred of intelligence between the ears should give a flying F about anyone else's OPINION.

Can we all please go back to objective measures of greatness. Like Trap speeds, Lap Times, Trophies Won and such. facepalm.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by 5.M0NSTER

Fantastic. I'm glad we put it all behind us now.

However. All of this is still an opinion, and no one with a shred of intelligence between the ears should give a flying F about anyone else's OPINION.

Can we all please go back to objective measures of greatness. Like Trap speeds, Lap Times, Trophies Won and such. facepalm.

2+2=4
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[5.M0NSTER]

Originally Posted by M5theonlyone

2+2=4
https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/v...aign=widget-12

For a 6 year old, your arithmetic is ... average at best.

[Top speed]

Originally Posted by 5.M0NSTER

For a 6 year old, your arithmetic is ... average at best.

However. All of this is still an opinion, and no one with a shred of intelligence between the ears should give a flying F about anyone else's OPINION.

Or is it a fact?

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by 5.M0NSTER

For a 6 year old, your arithmetic is ... average at best.

Isn't it past your bedtime? your mummy will not be pleased your still up..well you did say your relentless

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by 5.M0NSTER

See, unlike you I need data to reach conclusions. Which is why I modified B’s original post to make it factually correct. I have no comment on what happened to BOT, as I have no data. Do you?

But is it true that the other Red Bull car was retired because others were racing against it too hard?

You didn't watched the race !

[yco]

Schumacher times talks were like he was driving the best car of course he can win all races.. 10-15 years later.. people understood driving the best is just one of the ingredients to fly really high in F1.. and Toto Wolff stated a good point as a smart businessman and with his racing background.. Lewis is racing for Merc' not because he won the lottery in a very lucky day..

anyways Red Bull is on the way rebadge Honda engines.. probably teams will say ok.. but if things go political it can be messy..
Merc' engined teams and Renault can go against it, it wont be good for the sport but Red Bull is burning bridges with other team recently.. it can backfire..

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by 5.M0NSTER

There, I fixed that for you. Now it's factually substantiated.

"The Internet" fixed also something especially for you !!!

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by yco

Schumacher times talks were like he was driving the best car of course he can win all races.. 10-15 years later.. people understood driving the best is just one of the ingredients to fly really high in F1.. and Toto Wolff stated a good point as a smart businessman and with his racing background.. Lewis is racing for Merc' not because he won the lottery in a very lucky day..

anyways Red Bull is on the way rebadge Honda engines.. probably teams will say ok.. but if things go political it can be messy..
Merc' engined teams and Renault can go against it, it wont be good for the sport but Red Bull is burning bridges with other team recently.. it can backfire..

A re-badge HONDA PU will be 100% FIA legal ...
But the Merc's Party-Mode and the Ferrari Jet-Mode was 100% messy cheating !
Probably you think that was good for the sport ?

By this the whole 2019 WDC ranking was a joke with false numbers !
Approved by the FIA !!!

[CalAcacian]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

But the Merc's Party-Mode and the Ferrari Jet-Mode was 100% messy cheating

The Merc's party mode wasn't cheating though... the ban on engine modes was a move by the FIA to prevent all teams from hiding potential engine mode violations from the FIA in different engine maps.

That's completely different by the Ferrari oil burning.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by CalAcacian

The Merc's party mode wasn't cheating though... the ban on engine modes was a move by the FIA to prevent all teams from hiding potential engine mode violations from the FIA in different engine maps.

That's completely different by the Ferrari oil burning.

Well mate , actually it was a smart way to cheat in the grey zone .
As far as I know Red-Bull didn't had a Party-Mode or a Jet-Mode .
Some call it F1 inventions ... Of course !

The 2019 Merc's tire cooling system was also one of them .
Today It's the Mercs DAS . Of course also FIA approved .
What's next ?

One thing is for sure , as you know it makes the Merc's a lot faster than the others !
90 % of the races is a "Merc vs Merc" race ...Actually a GOAT and a grandma with lack of racecraft racing each other !
The million dollar question is : Is it fair for the other teams and drivers in slower cars ?

[CalAcacian]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

The million dollar question is : Is it fair for the other teams and drivers in slower cars ?

I have to disagree with you there, the million dollar question is: Gentlemen, a short view back to the past. Thirty years ago, Niki Lauda told us ‘take a monkey, place him into the cockpit and he is able to drive the car.’ Thirty years later, Sebastian told us ‘I had to start my car like a computer, it’s very complicated.’ And Nico Rosberg said that during the race – I don’t remember what race - he pressed the wrong button on the wheel. Question for you both: is Formula One driving today too complicated with twenty and more buttons on the wheel, are you too much under effort, under pressure? What are your wishes for the future concerning the technical programme during the race? Less buttons, more? Or less and more communication with your engineers?

Jokes aside, I'm hoping that Red Bull buying out the Honda engine IP means that they can start to compete with Mercedes, but I'm not hopeful.

I wish they would just bring the new engine formula up to 2022 instead of 2026. The lack of competition at the front is getting old.

[5.M0NSTER]

Originally Posted by M5theonlyone

Isn't it past your bedtime? your mummy will not be pleased your still up..well you did say your relentless

So I woke up today, checked the stats, and HAM still has more points than VER, and so does BOT. So new day, but facts still remain. See, a statement backed up by facts. Can you do that?

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

You didn't watched the race !

I did actually, just to hear ALB in a braking voice complain that "They are racing me SO hard." My wife looked up and asked: "What did he just say? It's literally his f&^% job!!"

So who do you think will be replacing ALB next?

[SenorFunkyPants]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

the Ferrari Jet-Mode was 100% messy cheating !
Probably you think that was good for the sport ?

I guess you failed to notice that the Honda PU was also down on power this year after the FIA reset the fuel flow regs.
And who can forget Red Bulls cheating bendy wings saga.
Playing the cheating card only works when the team your driver works for is totally clean and always has been.