[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by TiMSport

Yet.

While I am dating, I don't even have a titled girlfriend. Lol! A wife is way far off in my distant future.

[Murf993]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

I'm one of the few who haven't fallen victim to a failed or failing marriage.

You need a mentor.

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by Murf993

You need a mentor.

They all tell me to avoid the vows like the plague. At 42, marriage is becoming less & less likely.

[Murf993]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

They all tell me to avoid the vows like the plague. At 42, marriage is becoming less & less likely.

I'll never forget sitting in my first divorce lawyer's office and him telling me that "a lay's a lay, but a good cigar is a smoke".....

Enjoy your Porsche brother.

[F30lolz]

Originally Posted by ramman434

The flow of traffic down here is basically 80-90mph.

Usually it's some POS Sentra, Elantra, Kia, Altima, etc. that I'll see weaving in/out at 100+. You can see the car swaying since the suspension isn't set up for that kind of change up. Amazes me every time.

These are the same cars that cross over the plastic poles to move to/from the express lanes.

Sedan_Clan, is having an upside down plate enough reason to pull someone over? Asking for a potential friend. Also, I’ve noticed some vehicles have a temp tag taped onto the inside of their rear windshield with dark tints which can barely be seen. Would you do a traffic stop?

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by F30lolz

These are the same cars that cross over the plastic poles to move to/from the express lanes.

Sedan_Clan, is having an upside down plate enough reason to pull someone over? Asking for a potential friend. Also, I've noticed some vehicles have a temp tag taped onto the inside of their rear windshield with dark tints which can barely be seen. Would you do a traffic stop?

It would catch my attention. If the purpose is not to attract the attention of law enforcement, that isn't the best method to accomplish that. Hiding in plain sight is a much better approach.

[Sedan_Clan]

Searching for those drunks....

[Littlebear]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

Searching for those drunks....

Git em!
(seriously)

[ramman434]

I can honestly say that I've never gone through, or seen, a DUI traffic stop.

I hope y'all weren't successful in that no one was driving under the influence. If they were, I hope you got them.

[mahalom3]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

I'm one of the few who haven't fallen victim to a failed or failing marriage.

Ditto!!

[Murf993]

Originally Posted by mahalom3

Ditto!!

Rookies

[Lady Jane]

Don't worry, our resident Officers are on the case.


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[Littlebear]

Originally Posted by ramman434

I can honestly say that I've never gone through, or seen, a DUI traffic stop....

I haven't seen one in ages, but maybe that's because I don't drive late Fri & Sat nights like I used to.

[vreihen16]

Originally Posted by F30lolz

...is having an upside down plate enough reason to pull someone over? Asking for a potential friend.

I was just going to make a post asking why, but I realized the privacy benefit that might result with a certain piece of invasive tracking technology that is assaulting our personal liberties.

NY State V&T Law Section 402 makes no mention of mounting orientation, but does specify "conspicuously displayed" in text. Further sections go on to prohibit artificial obstructions such as clear covers, specify the minimum/maximum heights (used against lifted 4x4 pickups here), etc.

The online published legal opinions hint that the freedom of speech argument (flying flag upside-down in protest) do not apply to license plates.

My favorite rule in this vein is from the Formula SAE rulebook back in the day, where they had to spell out that all race car numbers had to be non-zero positive integers. I can only imagine working timing/scoring and having to enter Pi as a car number. Who would have thought that engineers would be so creative?

I've seen some cars from the Asian car show scene with diagonal license plates on the rear, with lots of body work to make it look factory. I wonder if there is a diagonal angle that would work enough to confuse the tracking technology without becoming probable cause?

With toll-by-mail being implemented all over the northeast, I suspect that one probably could not get away with upside-down plates for long anyway.....

[Littlebear]

Originally Posted by vreihen16

.... NY State V&T Law Section 402 makes no mention of mounting orientation, but does specify "conspicuously displayed" in text. Further sections go on to prohibit artificial obstructions such as clear covers, specify the minimum/maximum heights (used against lifted 4x4 pickups here), etc......

Here in NYC the "Traffic" police give out tickets if your two windshield stickers (inspection & registration) are not next to each other (one above the other is bad), and if the inspection sticker isn't the one on the outside.
Picky, picky, picky!

[Murf993]

Originally Posted by Littlebear

Here in NYC the "Traffic" police give out tickets if your two windshield stickers (inspection & registration) are not next to each other (one above the other is bad), and if the inspection sticker isn't the one on the outside.
Picky, picky, picky!

So I get your point, but rules are rules and the law is the law.

When we still had paper drivers licenses there was an offence for failing to sign it in ink. That ticket was saved for special people.

[Littlebear]

Originally Posted by Murf993

So I get your point, but rules are rules and the law is the law.

When we still had paper drivers licenses there was an offence for failing to sign it in ink. That ticket was saved for special people.

And making money is making money.
I assume these are NY state laws, but only NYC seems to care about them.
Mayor Bloomberg said he loved the traffic (parking) police because they were the only department that made $$. But they don't give tickets for honking horns....

[Murf993]

Originally Posted by Littlebear

And making money is making money.
I assume these are NY state laws, but only NYC seems to care about them.
Mayor Bloomberg said he loved the traffic (parking) police because they were the only department that made $$. But they don't give tickets for honking horns....

So you need to remember that cops are people, and like people they have pet peeves. I could frankly care less about tons of infractions, they often seem stupid to me. I'd lay the charge if you pissed me off but wouldn't hunt for it. Then there was other things that I would go after that pissed me off.

Some traffic guys just love those pissy little regulations for stuff like the window stickers. It's called human nature, cops are human.....

[Littlebear]

Originally Posted by Murf993

So you need to remember that cops are people, and like people they have pet peeves. I could frankly care less about tons of infractions, they often seem stupid to me. I'd lay the charge if you pissed me off but wouldn't hunt for it. Then there was other things that I would go after that pissed me off.

Some traffic guys just love those pissy little regulations for stuff like the window stickers. It's called human nature, cops are human.....

I lay it more on Bloomberg, who wanted them to collect as much as they could. And then on the legislators who couldn't just write, "Put both them stickers in the lower left corner" or such.
Some of the parking police are fine. The one we have now won't ticket within 5 minutes of the time limit. But once I got a ticket for 1 minute before time, while standing by my trunk.

[Murf993]

Originally Posted by Littlebear

I lay it more on Bloomberg, who wanted them to collect as much as they could. And then on the legislators who couldn't just write, "Put both them stickers in the lower left corner" or such.
Some of the parking police are fine. The one we have now won't ticket within 5 minutes of the time limit. But once I got a ticket for 1 minute before time, while standing by my trunk.

Parking tags are generally the big revenue generator for cities.

[vreihen16]

Originally Posted by Murf993

Some traffic guys just love those pissy little regulations for stuff like the window stickers. It's called human nature, cops are human.....

I had an old-timer detective from our small town's police department at our house taking a property damage accident report on Friday, and gave him a tip about something that he might want to be on the watch for in our neighborhood if they are having a slow day. He said that he would pass it along to the new guys on the night shift, since they were always looking for excitement.....

[2000cs]

Originally Posted by Murf993

So I get your point, but rules are rules and the law is the law.

When we still had paper drivers licenses there was an offence for failing to sign it in ink. That ticket was saved for special people.

Which is why I’ve favored a requirement that all laws sunset after 20 years (maximum), and must be individually voted to reinstate at that time (no omnibus). Would hopefully force state/federal legislators to actually consider what laws are needed, and let the rest go.

Enforcement of petty stuff, while “the law”, is very annoying and frankly intrusive to people who are mostly law abiding (like minor speeders). I really don’t like police using those laws, and check points, to try to get the baddies. To me is it harassing and intimidating 99 to catch 1, and contributes to ill feeling toward both police and the law.