[dmatre]

Took a trip up to the NC Mountains, for a day of fresh air and winery tours.

EVERYONE was wearing masks, with no whining/complaining/refusals.

It seems to be sinking in that if we want to keep things open, we need to do what is necessary to bring the numbers down (although they're still headed in the wrong direction). All of the masked up people are a change from even last weekend.

It is good that there is still good and encouraging news amidst this pandemic. This is what we need right now and another thing that gives me positive vibes is our new smart toilet https://bestflushingtoilet.org/best-...oilet-reviews/. SO excited to try its performance.

[TrevorM3]

3 patients had covid in our south fla hospital last week. Up to 33 now...

[RickFLM4]

Originally Posted by TrevorM3

3 patients had covid in our south fla hospital last week. Up to 33 now...

From the Miami Herald:

It took three months, from early March to June 22, for Florida to cross 100,000 new confirmed COVID-19 cases.

It took less than two weeks for the state to go from 100,000 to 200,000 cases — and the positive test rate keeps rising.

[TrevorM3]

Originally Posted by RickFLM4

From the Miami Herald:

It took three months, from early March to June 22, for Florida to cross 100,000 new confirmed COVID-19 cases.

It took less than two weeks for the state to go from 100,000 to 200,000 cases — and the positive test rate keeps rising.

we're going for number 1 baby

[wdb]

Originally Posted by M_Six

Just don't go thinking you're immune now. This just means you survived. It's not a Get Out of Jail Free card. Same rules as before still apply.

This. Antibodies give you about 6 months or so, then you’re back in the crosshairs. Just like the seasonal flu.

I’d like to think that the lower death rate signals a weakening of the virus but I haven’t seen any medical evidence or discussion yet. Doesn’t stop me from hoping.

[RickFLM4]

Originally Posted by wdb

This. Antibodies give you about 6 months or so, then you’re back in the crosshairs. Just like the seasonal flu.

I’d like to think that the lower death rate signals a weakening of the virus but I haven’t seen any medical evidence or discussion yet. Doesn’t stop me from hoping.

I think it’s more of a reflection of younger, healthier people getting it (vs. older people with more underlying health conditions originally caught by surprise), as well as the normal lag for number of deaths vs. infections. I also haven’t read anything about a weakening.

[M_Six]

Originally Posted by wdb

This. Antibodies give you about 6 months or so, then you’re back in the crosshairs. Just like the seasonal flu.

I’d like to think that the lower death rate signals a weakening of the virus but I haven’t seen any medical evidence or discussion yet. Doesn’t stop me from hoping.

They're finding better treatments as they learn more about it. Could be resulting in the lower death rate. Plus a lot of the new cases are younger folks who are less likely to die from this. It's still a bad disease to get and can still give you a lifetime of problems. I wish they'd all consider that.

[wdb]

Originally Posted by RickFLM4

I think it’s more of a reflection of younger, healthier people getting it (vs. older people with more underlying health conditions originally caught by surprise), as well as the normal lag for number of deaths vs. infections. I also haven’t read anything about a weakening.

Originally Posted by M_Six

They're finding better treatments as they learn more about it. Could be resulting in the lower death rate. Plus a lot of the new cases are younger folks who are less likely to die from this. It's still a bad disease to get and can still give you a lifetime of problems. I wish they'd all consider that.

True about the age groups but FL and AZ are loaded with retirees so I still wonder.

[RickFLM4]

Originally Posted by wdb

True about the age groups but FL and AZ are loaded with retirees so I still wonder.

Fewer retirees (at least in FL) in the summer than the winter. There is still a large contingent, but I think the rise in FL is due to younger people out in bars, restaurants, beaches and other social settings, as well as more testing in prisons and farm workers. No doubt some retirees are still getting affected but as noted there are possibly some better treatment options, and the wise among the most vulnerable surely are being more defensive than when no one knew what was happening.

[smyles]

Not exactly an encouraging news, but based on my observations from the GA beaches this weekend, COVID is far from the main health problem of our country. May be earlier this year when it all just started, but strategically obesity is far, far more serious one.

Also, re so called spikes:

[M_Six]

No big spike here in IL, but new cases and hospitalizations have been rising steadily the last few days. We were down to an average of 650/day or so. Today we're at 1018. I think we're seeing the beginning of the July 4th holiday surge. I expect it to keep rising for another week or so.

Today we went to Champaign (by U of I) to shop for groceries since they have better stores. The store we were in was in full swing, but we saw just one 60-ish couple not wearing masks. Everyone else in the store was and the cashiers were really good about doing a full wipe down between customers. Back home I had to run to the local hardware store to grab some ant traps (that time of year) and I was the only person in the store wearing a mask. That's why this county can't go a day without a handful of new cases.

[RickFLM4]

Originally Posted by M_Six

No big spike here in IL, but new cases and hospitalizations have been rising steadily the last few days. We were down to an average of 650/day or so. Today we're at 1018. I think we're seeing the beginning of the July 4th holiday surge. I expect it to keep rising for another week or so.

Today we went to Champaign (by U of I) to shop for groceries since they have better stores. The store we were in was in full swing, but we saw just one 60-ish couple not wearing masks. Everyone else in the store was and the cashiers we really good about doing a full wipe down between customers. Back home I had to run to the local hardware store to grab some ant traps (that time of year) and I was the only person in the store wearing a mask. That's why this county can't go a day without a handful of new cases.

You should see FL.

[TrevorM3]

jackson memorial hospital has 350 positive cases.

Broward health north has no ICU beds available.

Bodies will start piling up..

[BimmerDimmer6]

Originally Posted by TrevorM3

jackson memorial hospital has 350 positive cases.

Broward health north has no ICU beds available.

Bodies will start piling up..

That's not encouraging news.

[M_Six]

"Florida on Thursday announced nearly 9,000 new cases and 120 new coronavirus deaths, a record daily increase in lives lost. Governor Ron DeSantis called the rising cases a “blip” and urged residents not to be afraid."

Don't worry, it's just a blip according to your all-knowing governor.

[smyles]

Originally Posted by TrevorM3

jackson memorial hospital has 350 positive cases.

Broward health north has no ICU beds available.

Bodies will start piling up..

and now, the facts:

But in reality, what we’re seeing is more of a staffing issue than a lack of raw beds and ventilators.

[M_Six]

Originally Posted by smyles

and now, the facts:

So no worries, right? Lack of staff is no problem?

[smyles]

Originally Posted by M_Six

So no worries, right? Lack of staff is no problem?

No, let's send in a 1000-bed big f...g hospital ship that costs taxpayers $$$ to operate, to sit empty for few week, so we could appease concerned citizens.

[M_Six]

Originally Posted by smyles

No, let's send in a 1000-bed big f...g hospital ship that costs taxpayers $$$ to operate, to sit empty for few week, so we could appease concerned citizens.

That, like the temp hospital that they set up in the McCormick Place in Chicago, was a sensible precaution that luckily wasn't needed. And what does that have to do with the situation in Florida anyway?

[smyles]

Originally Posted by M_Six

That, like the temp hospital that they set up in the McCormick Place in Chicago, was a sensible precaution that luckily wasn't needed. And what does that have to do with the situation in Florida anyway?

It means you should start reading beyond the headlines. CDC website is a good start.

[TrevorM3]

Originally Posted by smyles

and now, the facts:

how is that not a fact? i know employees at both hospitals. why dont you come on down and volunteer since staffing is short?

i'll wait.. your balls haven't even dropped yet.