Firearms

upstatedoc · 06-28-2019, 08:50 PM

I lament about this every summer. Take my boys to the Adirondacks for vacation. We will be going hiking. Theoretically we can encounter blackbear and cougar. I have nearly every handgun Caliber available.I have carried my Ruger SP 101 .357. Best load for that? Soft points? I've heard that hollow points will clog up with animal fur.

Run Silent · 06-28-2019, 09:03 PM

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Discomfort for me comes from the thickness of the gun which 1911 doesn't have well thinner than a glock or similar brick.

^This. The 1911 frame is incredibly thin.

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Wow...I don't CCW, but those sound like very large objects to choose to carry around concealed. I assumed that if/when I do CCW, it would likely be a VP9SK, or smaller, just for comfort sake.

Meh, not really. Here is what I carry.

Wow, that's a .45? It looks tiny unless you have Andre the giant hands.

. This is my Sig. It's basically a seven shot 9 mm pocket pistol

Ha. Nope. I'm actually fair small in stature. Yes it is a 45. Love it and it had some weight so it actually doesn't have much of a recoil. Best gun I've ever had.

chowser51 · 06-28-2019, 10:39 PM

My SIG Ultra in .45 is a little smaller than a Glock 19 if you have one for reference.

Here's my SIG next to my Glock 32 (same size as the 19) and my SIG P365 with 12rd mag.

1MOREMOD · 06-28-2019, 10:46 PM

My sa pro and loaded

N54Yankee · 06-29-2019, 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by upstatedoc

I lament about this every summer. Take my boys to the Adirondacks for vacation. We will be going hiking. Theoretically we can encounter blackbear and cougar. I have nearly every handgun Caliber available.I have carried my Ruger SP 101 .357. Best load for that? Soft points? I've heard that hollow points will clog up with animal fur.

Hope it’s a 4” barreled version for more velocity and better accuracy. .357 pistol is a little light for me for bear protection but its better then banging on pots and pans. I would use hard cast, full power loads, check out Buffalo Bore ammo.
Bears have thick bodies with lots of hair and fat. You want as much penetration as possible to get to vitals. Blacks aren’t Griz and are usually much easy to dissuade.

Dog Face Pony Soldier · 06-29-2019, 03:21 PM

As a competitive MTB cyclist back in the day, I have literally thousands of miles of riding in Black Bear country. I always kept a tiny bell tied to the outside of my hydration backpack to make sure the bears heard me coming. They really want no part of being around humans. Bears only become an issue if you sneak up on them.

All that being said, I would carry a firearm if I were allowed to.

Seeyal · 06-29-2019, 03:29 PM

My next one... FN, of course... FN 5-7

1MOREMOD · 06-29-2019, 03:40 PM

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As a competitive MTB cyclist back in the day, I have literally thousands of miles of riding in Black Bear country. I always kept a tiny bell tied to the outside of my hydration backpack to make sure the bears heard me coming. They really want no part of being around humans. Bears only become an issue if you sneak up on them.

All that being said, I would carry a firearm if I were allowed to.

If no one ever sees it does it really exist.

335dlci · 06-29-2019, 07:22 PM

Anyone own any "gut guns" such as NAA?

N54Yankee · 07-01-2019, 09:27 AM

Never heard the term gut gun but since you mentioned the NAA I guess you’re talking about mouse or pocket guns. In that case I have two that qualify. One is an Intratec Protec .25 ACP. The same company that brought us the Tec-9 .Bought in new i the late 80’s and really it’s an inferior little pistol that’s a jamomatic. The biggest issue is the magazine springs are very weak and won’t feed the next round cleanly. Never tried to correct the issue as it wasn’t something that needed to be done. It was only about $75 new and said what hell and I took a chance on it. It’s somewhere in the back of one of my safes and haven’t used it in years.

The other is on the opposite side of the reliability spectrum. It’s a Beretta 21A in .22lr and hasn’t missed a beat in over 30 years of owning it. It shoots everything I feed it and it’s a fun little pistol that disappears in the pocket. It’s obviously not primary carry but a good back up and just a fun little pocket rocket to cheaply plink at the range or woods with.

rellascout · 07-01-2019, 06:28 PM

The 1911 chambered in 45 ACP is the Worlds Finest Close Quarters Sidearm… and...King of feedway stoppages. Every great American Patriot should own at least one. -Ken Hackathorn

I also like them in 9mm

rellascout · 07-01-2019, 06:32 PM

With the 4th long weekend coming up what are you shooting to celebrate?

Suds · 07-01-2019, 07:53 PM

Well, hopefully some feral pigs.

Norritt · 07-02-2019, 11:02 PM

indeed.

Britbimmer · 07-02-2019, 11:38 PM

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With the 4th long weekend coming up what are you shooting to celebrate?

Since I am British, I hope it's not me! I certainly won't be wearing a red coat and walking in a long line with other British friends on the 4th just in case someone decides to double tap me with a musket

1MOREMOD · 07-03-2019, 08:37 AM

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With the 4th long weekend coming up what are you shooting to celebrate?

Good plan get to the outdoor range and shoot my a4 likely. Last weekend got there and they were closed.

Run Silent · 07-03-2019, 08:49 AM

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Since I am British, I hope it's not me! I certainly won't be wearing a red coat and walking in a long line with other British friends on the 4th just in case someone decides to double tap me with a musket

This made me chuckle.

I think you should wear this shirt tomorrow.

Joekerr · 07-03-2019, 09:11 AM

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Since I am British, I hope it's not me! I certainly won't be wearing a red coat and walking in a long line with other British friends on the 4th just in case someone decides to double tap me with a musket

If I were you, I wouldn't smile either. Your teeth will be a dead giveaway...

Britbimmer · 07-03-2019, 10:31 AM

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This made me chuckle.

I think you should wear this shirt tomorrow.

Funny!

Britbimmer · 07-03-2019, 10:37 AM

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If I were you, I wouldn't smile either. Your teeth will be a dead giveaway...

Come on that's mean. I demand a duel. Fish and chips at 10 paces....

And I have lovely teeth, perhaps why so many American women want to kiss me!

Joekerr · 07-03-2019, 11:03 AM

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Come on that's mean. I demand a duel. Fish and chips at 10 paces....

Done - long as you'll indulge me with the opportunity to have a few scotches after.

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And I have lovely teeth, perhaps why so many American women want to kiss me!

I can assure you - it isn't the teeth. It is the sound that the wind rustling through the gaps makes when you speak that attracts them. 243 years later and they still recognize the sound /accent of their master...

(I'll see myself out now - fortunately not too many American women on here, otherwise I'd be receiving death threats for that joke)

Britbimmer · 07-03-2019, 11:13 AM

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Done - long as you'll indulge me with the opportunity to have a few scotches after.

As long as you don't insist on putting ice in your Scotch? (Sin against nature!)

06-28-2019, 08:50 PM	#3433
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N54Yankee Lieutenant Colonel 2708 Rep 1,916 Posts Drives: N54 135\|Cobb\|M3 control arms Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: USA iTrader: (0)	Never heard the term gut gun but since you mentioned the NAA I guess you’re talking about mouse or pocket guns. In that case I have two that qualify. One is an Intratec Protec .25 ACP. The same company that brought us the Tec-9 .Bought in new i the late 80’s and really it’s an inferior little pistol that’s a jamomatic. The biggest issue is the magazine springs are very weak and won’t feed the next round cleanly. Never tried to correct the issue as it wasn’t something that needed to be done. It was only about $75 new and said what hell and I took a chance on it. It’s somewhere in the back of one of my safes and haven’t used it in years. The other is on the opposite side of the reliability spectrum. It’s a Beretta 21A in .22lr and hasn’t missed a beat in over 30 years of owning it. It shoots everything I feed it and it’s a fun little pistol that disappears in the pocket. It’s obviously not primary carry but a good back up and just a fun little pocket rocket to cheaply plink at the range or woods with. __________________ __________________ "The Constitution was never construed to authorize Congress to infringe the just liberty of the press, or the rights of conscience; or to prevent the people of the United States, who are peaceable citizens, from keeping their own arms.” Samuel Adams
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rellascout Private First Class 71 Rep 112 Posts Drives: G30/M550ix 2019 Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: Virginia iTrader: (0) Garage List 2018 BMW M3 ZCP [0.00] 2019 BMW M550ix [0.00]	The 1911 chambered in 45 ACP is the Worlds Finest Close Quarters Sidearm… and...King of feedway stoppages. Every great American Patriot should own at least one. -Ken Hackathorn I also like them in 9mm
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