*OFFICIAL* general photography conversation thread

dcstep · 06-23-2012, 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Chewy734

Dave,

You might enjoy this review...
http://www.dougbrownphotography.com/...i-has-arrived/

Yes, Doug is an internet friend from birdphotographers.net and a great shooter.

Dave

UdubBadger · 06-24-2012, 12:09 AM

Ok so I went gold level cps.

Suggest I send the lens in for repair right away or estimate (not a 3 day turn around)?

M_Six · 06-25-2012, 08:40 PM

Got a MFA question. How far off is too far? My brand new 85 f1.8 was simply not hitting the focus point. Last night at an awards ceremony I had to switch to the 135L and stand in the back of the room. The images from the 85 weren't even looking sharp on the LCD, so I knew they'd be crap on the laptop. Today I set up a jerry-rigged MFA session in our hotel room and managed to dial in the 85 to what seems to be a sharp focus. But it's an adjustment of -6. Is that acceptable (assuming it really is now hitting focus)? Or should I send it in to Canon for calibration?

Weebl · 06-25-2012, 08:46 PM

If you can get it to focus sharp in your body, I bet Canon will respond that if "falls within specifications".
At least you can MA, I cannot and it sucks.

dcstep · 06-26-2012, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by M_Six

Got a MFA question. How far off is too far? My brand new 85 f1.8 was simply not hitting the focus point. Last night at an awards ceremony I had to switch to the 135L and stand in the back of the room. The images from the 85 weren't even looking sharp on the LCD, so I knew they'd be crap on the laptop. Today I set up a jerry-rigged MFA session in our hotel room and managed to dial in the 85 to what seems to be a sharp focus. But it's an adjustment of -6. Is that acceptable (assuming it really is now hitting focus)? Or should I send it in to Canon for calibration?

If it's within the adjustment range, then you're ok. Each camera/lens combination will be different. Also, be sure to adjust for your TC/lens combinations (assuming you're using Canon TCs that'll identify themselves to the camera).

Dave

kamek · 06-28-2012, 03:17 AM

Pulled the trigger, guys.

UdubBadger · 06-28-2012, 09:41 AM

nice

rodi · 06-28-2012, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by kamek

Pulled the trigger, guys.

now we'll match!

rodi · 06-30-2012, 05:24 PM

shorty forty.

Chewy734 · 06-30-2012, 05:51 PM

you bought one rodi? how do you like it?

rodi · 06-30-2012, 06:18 PM

perfectly small. a new body cap.
wouldn't dare try to use it for video, not because of the noise, but the form factor does not allow my focusing methods.

UdubBadger · 06-30-2012, 08:32 PM

Received a nice look when the USPS lady asked me how much insurance I wanted on my 5Dmkii and 16-35 2.8L being shipped to CPS.

$3500...

She goes...

Chewy734 · 06-30-2012, 08:54 PM

why did you ship out the 5D2?

UdubBadger · 06-30-2012, 10:12 PM

cleaning

dcstep · 06-30-2012, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by rodi

shorty forty.

I was thinking about that one. I'm looking forward to some shots.

rodi · 07-01-2012, 01:53 AM

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Originally Posted by dcstep

I was thinking about that one. I'm looking forward to some shots.

i'm really liking it. haven't really put it to good use yet, but i'll post stuff as soon as that happens.

dcstep · 07-01-2012, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by rodi

perfectly small. a new body cap.
wouldn't dare try to use it for video, not because of the noise, but the form factor does not allow my focusing methods.

Canon says:

STM - Continuous Autofocus for Shooting Video

So why not give it a try?

Dave

rodi · 07-01-2012, 12:37 PM

same reason I wouldn't dare use the 85/1.2 for video: it's focus-by-wire.
it's also audible, unlike USM L glass.
it also way too small to wrap fingers around it to pull focus. and impossible to use a follow-focus that doesn't have a reversible gear mount so that the crank clears the body.
but all of these are mute points compared to the focus-by-wire issue.

rodi · 07-01-2012, 12:39 PM

also, I truly believe that the STM moniker is a marketing ploy forthe entry consumer using the Rebels to shoot video an photos of their kids. the new rebel can autofocus in video mode with the new STM. it's not aimed at pros. and this lens is not a pro lens.

dcstep · 07-01-2012, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by rodi

also, I truly believe that the STM moniker is a marketing ploy forthe entry consumer using the Rebels to shoot video an photos of their kids. the new rebel can autofocus in video mode with the new STM. it's not aimed at pros. and this lens is not a pro lens.

You may be right about the marketing gimic, but I was thinking that we'd see video AF migrate to the pro-sumer level, like the 5D3 and the 7D2.

If it were smooth and accurate, it'd be a boon for some scenes. That's a big IF, I realize.

Dave

kamek · 07-01-2012, 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dcstep

Canon says:

STM - Continuous Autofocus for Shooting Video

So why not give it a try?

Dave

Quote:

Originally Posted by dcstep

You may be right about the marketing gimic, but I was thinking that we'd see video AF migrate to the pro-sumer level, like the 5D3 and the 7D2.

If it were smooth and accurate, it'd be a boon for some scenes. That's a big IF, I realize.

Dave

Canon confirmed that there won't be continuous auto-focus for the 5D3. It was confirmed with the release of the newest firmware that added support for the 40mm.

rodi · 07-01-2012, 02:55 PM

I think it's hard to realize for anyone who does not shoot video professionally, that autofocus for video is not welcomed, needed or desired.

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M_Six Free Thinker 19771 Rep 7,561 Posts Drives: 2016 MB GLC300 4matic Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Foothills of Mt Level iTrader: (0)	Got a MFA question. How far off is too far? My brand new 85 f1.8 was simply not hitting the focus point. Last night at an awards ceremony I had to switch to the 135L and stand in the back of the room. The images from the 85 weren't even looking sharp on the LCD, so I knew they'd be crap on the laptop. Today I set up a jerry-rigged MFA session in our hotel room and managed to dial in the 85 to what seems to be a sharp focus. But it's an adjustment of -6. Is that acceptable (assuming it really is now hitting focus)? Or should I send it in to Canon for calibration? __________________ Mark markj.pics "Life is uncertain, eat bacon now." -UncleWede
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rodi . . . 192 Rep 2,391 Posts Drives: your FACE! Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Atlanta proper iTrader: (-1)	same reason I wouldn't dare use the 85/1.2 for video: it's focus-by-wire. it's also audible, unlike USM L glass. it also way too small to wrap fingers around it to pull focus. and impossible to use a follow-focus that doesn't have a reversible gear mount so that the crank clears the body. but all of these are mute points compared to the focus-by-wire issue. __________________ 2009 135i \| space grey \| sport \| navi \| hifi \| heated dinan stage 2 software \| bmw performance exhaust kw v2 \| hotchkis front sway \| vmr v710
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rodi . . . 192 Rep 2,391 Posts Drives: your FACE! Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Atlanta proper iTrader: (-1)	also, I truly believe that the STM moniker is a marketing ploy forthe entry consumer using the Rebels to shoot video an photos of their kids. the new rebel can autofocus in video mode with the new STM. it's not aimed at pros. and this lens is not a pro lens. __________________ 2009 135i \| space grey \| sport \| navi \| hifi \| heated dinan stage 2 software \| bmw performance exhaust kw v2 \| hotchkis front sway \| vmr v710
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