[Chewy734]

Mark,

In your experience, how does MSNR compare to using noise reduction in something like LR4?

[M_Six]

Originally Posted by Chewy734

Mark,

In your experience, how does MSNR compare to using noise reduction in something like LR4?

I don't use LR4, but the MSNR blows away the Adobe ACR noise reduction. Much more detail is preserved, although the two methods are apples and oranges. Adobe's ACR is still going to be needed if there is any movement at all in the image because MSNR is, of course, multi-shot. Same rules as HDR apply when it comes to subject movement.

[M_Six]

Here's a comparison set. Both pics shot with the same specs: 70-300L f5 1/50s 12800 ISO. The first is MSNR, the second is PP'd with ACR using NR. There is a difference in focal point, unfortunately, but this is about noise anyway.

Not a lot of difference, but the MSNR shot took much less work to get is clean. And in the full image I think the detail is better in the MSNR version.

[Seminole]

[Chewy734]

^ I bet that Dave wouldn't even use a tripod for it.

[dcstep]

Originally Posted by Chewy734

^ I bet that Dave wouldn't even use a tripod for it.

It does look like an over-the-shoulder piece...

[The1]

Might have trouble using it from your favourite shooting blind however..... Would kill the performance of the M3

[Chewy734]

Originally Posted by The1

Might have trouble using it from your favourite shooting blind however..... Would kill the performance of the M3

He could use this.

[dcstep]

Originally Posted by Chewy734

He could use this.

That thing is for wimps.

Hand holding is the only way to go.

I might need some higher load rating on my tires.

Dave

[M_Six]

Originally Posted by Chewy734

He could use this.

I don't think I'd trust that suction cup with so much high-dollar weight.

[M_Six]

What a cool bag. It holds virtually all of my photo gear and my 15" laptop. It's heavy when loaded like that, of course, but it's easy enough to carry. I'm pretty sure it will meet airline carry-on size limits as well. Should have bought one of these years ago.

[dcstep]

Originally Posted by M_Six

What a cool bag. It holds virtually all of my photo gear and my 15" laptop. It's heavy when loaded like that, of course, but it's easy enough to carry. I'm pretty sure it will meet airline carry-on size limits as well. Should have bought one of these years ago.

I use the TT Airport International and love it for when I need to carry the 500mm on trips. It can take the 500mm, two bodies, my 70-200mm, my 24-105mm, TCs, ETs, flash and a few other odds and ends. They make great products.

Dave

[M_Six]

I finally started my new job and was visiting the web design office yesterday. They have some nice cameras and are willing to loan them out to some folks. One was a Canon 1D MkIII and one was, unbelievably, a Leica M9. I may take them up on the M9 offer just to see what it can do in my inept hands.

[Chewy734]

cool Mark. I wonder what lenses they have for the M9. It's definitely a technical, but fun camera to play with.

[Weebl]

Originally Posted by M_Six

I finally started my new job and was visiting the web design office yesterday. They have some nice cameras and are willing to loan them out to some folks. One was a Canon 1D MkIII and one was, unbelievably, a Leica M9. I may take them up on the M9 offer just to see what it can do in my inept hands.

Go for the shallow DOF with it anything I have seen with the Leica like that looks very nice. Don't touch the Canon, you wife will not be amused at the results.

[dcstep]

The M9 can make some great images, no doubt. Still, I'd make my decision based on what lenses that they had for each camera vs. what you'd like to shoot.

Dave

[M_Six]

Originally Posted by dcstep

The M9 can make some great images, no doubt. Still, I'd make my decision based on what lenses that they had for each camera vs. what you'd like to shoot.

Dave

If I borrow the 1D MkIII, I have the lenses I need. I didn't see any major guns hanging around, so I doubt they had anything drool worthy in the lens category. Not sure what was on the Leica. I was talking to the keeper of the loaners today and we were comparing the shutter noise from the 1D MkIII vs my 6D in quiet mode. Huge, huge difference in sound.

[The1]

My advice, don't borrow any. You have a very good capable camera, and if you test the 1D or M9, you may be left wanting to spend more money unnecessarily to upgrade to something you'll be afraid to take outside

just my .02

[The1]

then again, the canadian dollar is back under the US dollar, so my .02 cents really aren't worth as much today...

[Weebl]

Actually, either your $.02 are worth nothing or now $.05!
Wifey has quite a few older pennies, King or 1967 centennial.

[The1]

Originally Posted by Weebl

Actually, either your $.02 are worth nothing or now $.05!
Wifey has quite a few older pennies, King or 1967 centennial.

Lol, touché....

Pisses me off when companies round up. I think all places should be rounding down to the benefit of the customer, shows better customer relations in my opinion.

And old pennies stick around forever!!! I think it's funny seeing the king on them

They have been talking about doing the same with our 5c pieces, Time will tell. I'm surprised this penny removal hasn't been done in the USA yet. They cost 3c to make.

[dcstep]

If you're like me, you'll be cursing the rangefinder viewer before the first ten-minutes is up. It was a decent solution in the 1940s, but my first camera was a TLR (in 1960-ish) because I couldn't stand working with a rangefinder. At short focal lengths, I suppose they're ok for street shooting and now days you can chimp to see what you actually got, but they absolutely sucked back when it took days to get your film back and the camera wasn't taking what you saw in the viewfinder.

Dave