[davis449]

This is easy. Cayman S with a PDK.

[baege]

Originally Posted by R3dliner

Stay away from the domestics lol.

RS5
LC500

rs5 no lowcend torque

lc 500....nice call

[baege]

for all the porsche suggestions....should have said that I want to go non porsche...i love em but want something different

[///M Ryder]

Originally Posted by baege

for all the porsche suggestions....should have said that I want to go non porsche...i love em but want something different

Say what....."There's No Substitute"........Phil

[Unknown_Car]

Originally Posted by R3dliner

Stay away from the domestics lol.

RS5
LC500

Stay away from domestic and from lexus. There is nothing uglier then the new Lexus there rear is like prius and the front is like vampire. Go with German, clean designs and nothing is close to there quality. Sure you will have to spend extra on repairs, but everything brakes. I know a lady who bought a 2016 toyota sequoia and all she had was problems. At the end they gave her a new car.

[R3dliner]

Originally Posted by Roma_335i

Stay away from domestic and from lexus. There is nothing uglier then the new Lexus there rear is like prius and the front is like vampire. Go with German, clean designs and nothing is close to there quality. Sure you will have to spend extra on repairs, but everything brakes. I know a lady who bought a 2016 toyota sequoia and all she had was problems. At the end they gave her a new car.

LOL no need to be ignorant. That's like me saying don't get a 335 because there uglier than a M3. Do you not know Toyota is the best reliable brand? I bet you never owned a lexus.
Have you sat in one?
The interior is gorgeous and styling is a step up. Resembles closely to a LFA.

OP go sit in one and see for yourself.

[baege]

Originally Posted by ///M Ryder

Say what....."There's No Substitute"........Phil

like i said i love them
they offer a very visceral precise drving experience
but there is a commonality with all the porsche models
in the driving experience and I am afraid that has normalized for me and i want something different

[Red Bread]

The LC500 is such a fat pig. 4300 pounds best case. And the interior is so oddly similar to a Lincoln Mk8 from the '90's.

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[img]http://st.automobilemag.com/uploads/...500-cabin1.jpg[/img]

[saeyedoc]

Originally Posted by baege

like i said i love them
they offer a very visceral precise drving experience
but there is a commonality with all the porsche models
in the driving experience and I am afraid that has normalized for me and i want something different

Makes sense, go to something of lesser quality, worse handling, more unreliable, etc., then you'll be glad when you get back to Porsche. That's like saying I'm going to sleep with fat, ugly girls for awhile because I'm tired of all the 9s and 10s.

[baege]

Originally Posted by saeyedoc

Makes sense, go to something of lesser quality, worse handling, more unreliable, etc., then you'll be glad when you get back to Porsche. That's like saying I'm going to sleep with fat, ugly girls for awhile because I'm tired of all the 9s and 10s.

...
so you clearly believe there is no substitute?

no other manufacturer can touch porsche based on my parameters?

[saeyedoc]

I haven't found one. Everything more expensive is more unreliable with much higher maintenance and less of a DD (Maserati, Ferrari, Aston). I don't care for Mercedes except for the really high end ones, and most won't drive as well as a Porsche. Audis are nice, but numb comparatively. M cars come close, but still not as nice, but have some desirable elements if you need seating for more than two.

[AtlasM]

Originally Posted by Red Bread

The LC500 is such a fat pig. 4300 pounds best case. And the interior is so oddly similar to a Lincoln Mk8 from the '90's.

It's a GT, not a sports car. Personally the dash reminds me more of the 4th gen Honda Prelude, which I always rather liked.

[Red Bread]

Haha, true. I'd forgotten about that Prelude.

The two, err three tone interior is actually pretty nice looking.

[overcoil]

Originally Posted by saeyedoc

I haven't found one. Everything more expensive is more unreliable with much higher maintenance and less of a DD (Maserati, Ferrari, Aston). I don't care for Mercedes except for the really high end ones, and most won't drive as well as a Porsche. Audis are nice, but numb comparatively. M cars come close, but still not as nice, but have some desirable elements if you need seating for more than two.

Not sure anyone can argue with what you wrote. But I hate rear-engine and mid-engine cars. When I drove a 911, would never take it out early Sunday morning if the roads where wet to play (usually after watching an F1 race).

[saeyedoc]

Why? My 911 is very stable in the rain, all the weight on the rear really lays the traction down. Not so much with my Cayman. I

[///M Ryder]

Originally Posted by ScottSinger

Not sure anyone can argue with what you wrote. But I hate rear-engine and mid-engine cars. When I drove a 911, would never take it out early Sunday morning if the roads where wet to play (usually after watching an F1 race).

I think the mid-engine is phenomenal. Sure it takes a little time to get used to it but once you do.....you would never want to go back to a engine hanging in the front of you. The driving experience is just that....an experience......Phil

[overcoil]

Originally Posted by ///M Ryder

I think the mid-engine is phenomenal. Sure it takes a little time to get used to it but once you do.....you would never want to go back to a engine hanging in the front of you. The driving experience is just that....an experience......Phil

I think the Cayman GT4 is Porsche's best car, that car impresses me, My driving skills are nowhere near capable of pushing one though.


On a side note, look how well this car is driven.

[baege]

test drove w204 c63 with performance pack
liked it
compact/ good visibility/ grear throttle response and low end torque
didnt find the paddle shifting responsive
the plot thickens

[AtlasM]

Originally Posted by baege

test drove w204 c63 with performance pack
liked it
compact/ good visibility/ grear throttle response and low end torque
didnt find the paddle shifting responsive
the plot thickens

Did you play with the different shift modes?

[jpolonista]

Audi R8?

[baege]

Originally Posted by AtlasM

Did you play with the different shift modes?

there is only one manual.mode i think....the other modes control the auto shifting points

[baege]

Originally Posted by jpolonista

Audi R8?

def thought about it...R8 v10 is a little out of reach and the v8 has poor low end torque....also a little impractical for my only car