BMW NA loses over 370 cars TODAY!! damaged!

raleedy · 01-12-2008, 12:34 AM

Not that those RoRo auto carries look very stable, but what would cause a ship that size, tied up at dockside, to tip? Somebody drove cars off in the wrong sequence? Speedboat wake? It's a wonder nobody was hurt.

Flea7 · 01-12-2008, 12:43 AM

I feel sorry for the people with the EU deliveries.

bronco · 01-12-2008, 12:51 AM

My poor e92 is on that boat....Tell me I am dreaming....

I knew something bad is going to happen to my car, I had a bad feeling ever since the ship got delayed at the begining of its trip

Tag · 01-12-2008, 12:59 AM

Holy shi.........

hl0m4n · 01-12-2008, 01:03 AM

that is horrible, but at least we know that the m3 was on its way

Comet · 01-12-2008, 01:17 AM

tell me this doesn't affect Canadian BMWs :P

bad weather can cause the vessel to tip.. it happens...

rzm3 · 01-12-2008, 01:19 AM

my condolences

vladinecko · 01-12-2008, 01:29 AM

simply Terrible

M3 Piotr · 01-12-2008, 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by JoeClothing

some one explain what the M3's are doing on the boat. Are they orders? I thought pricing wasn't even available. Same with the 1 series....

I'm only speculating, but when E46 M3 was about to came out, BMW NA brought over 300 or so Laguna Seca E46 M3s to US to distribute to each dealer, for customers to try it. But the stealers didn't really used the cars what they brought here for, but sold them almost immediately. So those e92 M3 could of been for the same purpose, since the article says that most were new M3s.

klo · 01-12-2008, 01:52 AM

Not sure how exactly the route for the shipping/vessels work, but was jersey the last stop for these cars? My CA said that my car coming back from euro del was scheduled to arrive in cali on jan 17th...so I'm wondering if there's any chance my e92 might be on that. Sorry for those who had their cars on it....

mJ335 · 01-12-2008, 02:01 AM

Damn.. that sux.. wonderin if they'll sell the wheels for a cheap price..

Chunga · 01-12-2008, 02:14 AM

Anyone in for at cheap pre damaged car with low milage?

shahils12 · 01-12-2008, 02:43 AM

SHIT! my e93 is on that vessel... WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH THESE EFFIN BOATS!!!! as if 5 months wasn't enough of a wait... EFFFFFFFFFFFFf

Pretender · 01-12-2008, 03:22 AM

"Those cars with light damage will be repaired at the Elizabeth Receiving facility and sold through BMW's dealer network as new cars. "

I wonder this is considered "light damage". I wouldn't pay $60k+ for this car.

Chunga · 01-12-2008, 04:47 AM

"sold as new cars" - have a nice ownership.......

Babe · 01-12-2008, 04:56 AM

The last time this happened, it was Mazda. There was a shortage of certain model in 2006.

I would not buy one for the love of money for a long time, thinking you may have one repaired. They are NEVER the same.

Robert · 01-12-2008, 05:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeClothing

some one explain what the M3's are doing on the boat. Are they orders? I thought pricing wasn't even available. Same with the 1 series....

1 series pricing is out and orders are taken but no customer delivery yet. Those must be dealer cars

Quote:

"sold as new cars" - have a nice ownership.......

so much for carfax

hafnia · 01-12-2008, 06:16 AM

Sorry to see this...

SCA · 01-12-2008, 06:49 AM

Centers are always able to tell if a vehicle was damaged in transit (VPC Damage). There is a damage discloser within CenterNet when the VIN or production # is entered. BTW, the severity of the damage is also disclosed.

DFW_M · 01-12-2008, 07:05 AM

I'd still give them my car for one of those smashed M3s...

BMWGator · 01-12-2008, 07:15 AM

Yikes! That ship (Courage) is the ship that safely brought my car over a few months ago! Man, I feel bad for those waiting for their cars...I would be devastated!

SteveMD · 01-12-2008, 07:19 AM

My neighbor used to load and unload these ships. Back in the day, he would hire me for a day to off load Benzs here in Baltimore. I've actually driven over 200 Benzs albeit for less than 1/3 mile each.

Other than that, I am not an expert but I do know that these ships need to be loaded and unloaded in precise sequence to maintain stabilty. Some of these ships can transport 3000 cars. The offloading is very carefully controlled.

I would imagine however that it was something else. My hunch is that it happened out at sea. Maybe rough seas in combination with an inexperienced crew?

Sad though. I feel for those with cars on board. At least you have alcohol!

01-12-2008, 12:34 AM	#23
raleedy Colonel 160 Rep 2,248 Posts Drives: 2016 228i 6-speed Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Portland, Oregon iTrader: (0)	Not that those RoRo auto carries look very stable, but what would cause a ship that size, tied up at dockside, to tip? Somebody drove cars off in the wrong sequence? Speedboat wake? It's a wonder nobody was hurt.
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01-12-2008, 12:43 AM	#24
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01-12-2008, 12:51 AM	#25
bronco Colonel 76 Rep 2,104 Posts Drives: e92 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Atlanta iTrader: (0)	My poor e92 is on that boat....Tell me I am dreaming.... I knew something bad is going to happen to my car, I had a bad feeling ever since the ship got delayed at the begining of its trip __________________ SaaS - The world of tomorrow is already here...www.saaschronicles.com
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01-12-2008, 12:59 AM	#26
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01-12-2008, 01:03 AM	#27
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01-12-2008, 01:17 AM	#28
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01-12-2008, 01:19 AM	#29
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01-12-2008, 01:29 AM	#30
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01-12-2008, 01:52 AM	#32
klo Private 4 Rep 75 Posts Drives: 335xi coupe Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Seattle, WA iTrader: (0)	Not sure how exactly the route for the shipping/vessels work, but was jersey the last stop for these cars? My CA said that my car coming back from euro del was scheduled to arrive in cali on jan 17th...so I'm wondering if there's any chance my e92 might be on that. Sorry for those who had their cars on it....
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01-12-2008, 02:01 AM	#33
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01-12-2008, 02:14 AM	#34
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01-12-2008, 02:43 AM	#35
shahils12 BALLER 19 Rep 626 Posts Drives: 2K8 E93, 2K8 E60. N54s Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: ATX iTrader: (0)	SHIT! my e93 is on that vessel... WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH THESE EFFIN BOATS!!!! as if 5 months wasn't enough of a wait... EFFFFFFFFFFFFf
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01-12-2008, 03:22 AM	#36
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01-12-2008, 04:47 AM	#37
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01-12-2008, 04:56 AM	#38
Babe Test here 46 Rep 374 Posts Drives: 2007 335i Alpine White Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Ann Arbor iTrader: (0)	The last time this happened, it was Mazda. There was a shortage of certain model in 2006. I would not buy one for the love of money for a long time, thinking you may have one repaired. They are NEVER the same.
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01-12-2008, 06:16 AM	#40
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01-12-2008, 06:49 AM	#41
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01-12-2008, 07:05 AM	#42
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01-12-2008, 07:15 AM	#43
BMWGator Captain 16 Rep 653 Posts Drives: 2008 E93 335i Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: DC iTrader: (0)	Yikes! That ship (Courage) is the ship that safely brought my car over a few months ago! Man, I feel bad for those waiting for their cars...I would be devastated!
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01-12-2008, 07:19 AM	#44
SteveMD Colonel 201 Rep 2,485 Posts Drives: 2016 F10 535i MSport Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Raventown! iTrader: (3)	My neighbor used to load and unload these ships. Back in the day, he would hire me for a day to off load Benzs here in Baltimore. I've actually driven over 200 Benzs albeit for less than 1/3 mile each. Other than that, I am not an expert but I do know that these ships need to be loaded and unloaded in precise sequence to maintain stabilty. Some of these ships can transport 3000 cars. The offloading is very carefully controlled. I would imagine however that it was something else. My hunch is that it happened out at sea. Maybe rough seas in combination with an inexperienced crew? Sad though. I feel for those with cars on board. At least you have alcohol! __________________ 2006 E90 330i (retired) 2009 E90 335i (retired) 2012 E70 X5 50i M Sport (retired) 2016 F10 535i M Sport
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