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      03-18-2016, 08:03 PM   #23
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For me ... smaller company would be far more boring. I give advice on investigation employee misconduct ... when we discipline or fire, I get to represent the company in dealing with their union or association. I get to lead collective bargaining as the chief negotiator for 3 collective agreements with two different unions.

The bigger the company, the more fun I get to have! Plus, for my work, smaller companies pay less than bigger ones. A lot less.
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      03-18-2016, 08:44 PM   #24
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I work for a large company that behaves more like a startup. Therefore it maintains high levels of innovation and, with big company resources, becomes the most profitable institution in history. It helps that the hiring standards are extremely high, so people of all levels can be counted on to deliver.

Most large companies move slowly, tediously, and safely and you're mostly just a cog in the wheel.
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      03-19-2016, 10:40 AM   #25
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Worked at three major entertainment studios. Now I work at an independent tv production studio. Small company is way better. No political bullshit, can do the job in any way I see fit (more efficient can be more creative) and learning a shit ton more. Can't stand large companies.
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Worked at three major entertainment studios. Now I work at an independent tv production studio. Small company is way better. No political bullshit, can do the job in any way I see fit (more efficient can be more creative) and learning a shit ton more. Can't stand large companies.
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      03-19-2016, 11:13 AM   #27
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OP,

I've worked at large, small, medium-sized, and start-ups and I believe that they each hold a place in the employment and people settle into the model they feel best working in.

For me it is start-ups. I like the risk-reward proposition and the ability to help control the destiny of the organization with the decisions I making having a very high and immediate impact.

My time at very large organizations, (110,000+) taught me corporate discipline and the respect for process, organization, and rules. It also taught me that the rules should never overcome the mission of the organization and this must be assiduously avoided.

My time at small, small-transitioning-to-medium, and medium-sized organizations taught me the value of flexibility, the necessity to get along with your peers (still a challenge for me), and the ability to navigate an organization and to work cross-functionally.

My time doing M & A work taught me that there is no such thing as a merger of equals. One organization is consuming the other. Period, end of story. Anything else is PR propaganda designed to lull you into a false sense of security as you are being gobbled up.

I hope this helps.

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      03-19-2016, 02:09 PM   #28
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But if you're going to work for a startup, you need to demand 20,000 shares. It doesn't matter what the shares are worth, it just matters that there is 20,000 of them. After all, you're likely reporting to a VP.

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But if you're going to work for a startup, you need to demand 20,000 shares. It doesn't matter what the shares or worth, it just matters that there is 20,000 of them. After all, you're likely reporting to a VP.
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      03-19-2016, 10:09 PM   #30
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I wish you would have put more business cliche terminology into your first post though.
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      03-20-2016, 11:58 AM   #31
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This thread needs a RESUME WAR!
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      03-20-2016, 07:30 PM   #32
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This thread needs a RESUME WAR!
It'd be a joke. I have fired hundreds of morons like that tool.

I employ several engineers currently working on the design of my manufacturing facility, at this very moment. If you look at the fact that he purports to live in Cupertino and work for, 'the most profitable business in history, () I am seriously reconsidering making my start-up an Apple shop. If an, 'engineer', can miss so many context clues and details from the OP from the thread in which he offered his, 'opinion', regarding my advice, it may be why this latest release is so freaking buggy.

Cheers-mk

P.S. He finds it odd that I would suggest to the OP in the original thread, in which he scuttled from under his rock, to ask for more than the 1000 shares that were originally offered. In the adult world this is called negotiating. Oh, and before he makes another stupid comment about the value...information was offered by the OP that they would not be worth that much. Again, my advice...ASK FOR MORE.

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      03-21-2016, 01:46 AM   #33
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I would like to see formatting lol
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It'd be a joke. I have fired hundreds of morons like that tool.

I employ several engineers currently working on the design of my manufacturing facility, at this very moment. If you look at the fact that he purports to live in Cupertino and work for, 'the most profitable business in history, () I am seriously reconsidering making my start-up an Apple shop. If an, 'engineer', can miss so many context clues and details from the OP from the thread in which he offered his, 'opinion', regarding my advice, it may be why this latest release is so freaking buggy.

Cheers-mk

P.S. He finds it odd that I would suggest to the OP in the original thread, in which he scuttled from under his rock, to ask for more than the 1000 shares that were originally offered. In the adult world this is called negotiating. Oh, and before he makes another stupid comment about the value...information was offered by the OP that they would not be worth that much. Again, my advice...ASK FOR MORE.
Heh. People like you are why people like me enjoy internet forums

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      03-21-2016, 07:29 AM   #35
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Heh. People like you are why people like me enjoy internet forums

Keep up the strong work.
Hopefully, we can return to our originally scheduled thread.
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      03-21-2016, 07:44 AM   #36
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It'd be a joke. I have fired hundreds of morons like that tool.

I employ several engineers currently working on the design of my manufacturing facility, at this very moment. If you look at the fact that he purports to live in Cupertino and work for, 'the most profitable business in history, () I am seriously reconsidering making my start-up an Apple shop. If an, 'engineer', can miss so many context clues and details from the OP from the thread in which he offered his, 'opinion', regarding my advice, it may be why this latest release is so freaking buggy.

Cheers-mk

P.S. He finds it odd that I would suggest to the OP in the original thread, in which he scuttled from under his rock, to ask for more than the 1000 shares that were originally offered. In the adult world this is called negotiating. Oh, and before he makes another stupid comment about the value...information was offered by the OP that they would not be worth that much. Again, my advice...ASK FOR MORE.
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      03-21-2016, 09:38 AM   #37
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Smaller companies would be hard to work for when you can see waste in one hand while your phone in the other hand just got an email about how money is tight and you won't be getting a raise this year.

Wife worked at a company with less than 100 people. Small family feel, but they took advantage of her.

They would reward the people who would threaten to quit while screwing the people who keep their head down and work hard.

Gets to the point where ethical people start to question their ethics about work production and question themselves if they should start "playing the game".
Sheesh. I never thought about that but that's true for small companies. In big companies, if you threaten to quit... they won't even let you finish your sentenced before your ass gets kicked out the door.
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Anyone else find it ironic that OP's UN is "Whostheboss".





We see what you did there, OP.
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Anyone else find it ironic that OP's UN is "Whostheboss".





We see what you did there, OP.
Well, Tony Danza is probably looking for work...
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Anyone else find it ironic that OP's UN is "Whostheboss".





We see what you did there, OP.
Hahaha. I'm the Boss in my own world.
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I've worked for small, medium, and large companies.

Working for a small company is the ONLY way to go. Anything else is just a rat race for no damn reason. Add a bad manager to the mix (a dime a dozen in a large company) and you are in for a world of "I hate my life".

Large company's often mandate goals for their employees. The last one I worked for required me to work 2 proposals, volunteer activities, maintain a high utilization rate, go through lengthy mid-year and year-end reviews, perform policy reviews and signature (took up lots of time), do extra cirriculars...and much more....all for nothing. It's completely ridiculous some of the stuff large companies make their employees do. Literally, everybody was tied to their job and the people they worked with 24/7. If not at work, then at some social/after work activity.

I'd rather manage my own time and development than a company forcing me to help make the organization look better (often a the detriment of the employee - work/life balance, stress, bad managers, rat race, etc.)

Small company....100%

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      03-22-2016, 04:19 PM   #42
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I run a small company, it's awesome.
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Small company, 100%. A small company:
  1. Is typically growing. This means more opportunities for advancement
  2. Wants to attract talent since it can't afford to have dead weight. This means higher wages, better people, and better management.
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I've worked for both big and small companies. I much prefer start ups, people are much more driven to see the company succeed.

With big companies, it's sad how many people just don't give a shit, they're just obsessed with following a process and keeping in guidelines instead of taking a step back and trying to contribute to the success of the company.
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