[Alex@VNV-Speed]

Hope the S55 is getting a new crankshaft and hub or is being dumped for an engine based off the B58.

[MasterP]

Originally Posted by xlover

I dont understand how they can have a 4 month break in production? how can they afford to leave lots without inventory for a few months? Feel like there is an additional piece of the puzzle missing.

There is plenty of inventory to cover that 4 month gap.

They're helping the dealers not have to sell left over 2017's side by side with 2018's which will have similar prices but will be refreshed and likely have some features that the 17's didn't with better leases to boot.

[MasterP]

Originally Posted by Ramos

Huh?? No dude, I am getting an M2 (no production gap)
I'm just asking if a get a MY 18 that's produced in July, how long before I see the car on the west coast.

My current M235 ends in June and I'm trying to figure out if there's a way I can wait for an LCI MY18

You can extend your lease. Call the Maturity center and tell them you have a vehicle on order and you're going to extend however many months. You keep making your contracted payments and then turn it in when you're ready for the next vehicle.

[DL3]

Too much inventory?? Good way of forcing an individual to purchase off the lot. Lots of competition & possibly business not as brisk as one might be led to believe. Just adding another wrinkle to the story.

[ppDoc]

So no custom orders for M3/4 from Feb to Jul. bad move?

[jaybird124]

Let me get this straight, BMW is going to do a 2nd LCI on the F80 (which was already selling well)?
Some of the mags are indicated there could be mechanical or power updates. Any yay or nay on that?

[mkoesel]

Originally Posted by jaybird124

Let me get this straight, BMW is going to do a 2nd LCI on the F80 (which was already selling well)?

It's not a second LCI. You have to keep in mind that while the 3 Series (and M3) and 4 Series (and M4) are on staggered schedules that are about 1.5 years apart, they do share many parts. This means that although their LCIs are also offset by 1.5 years, when either of them is updated there is potential for those updates to cross over to the other model. For example, when the 3 Series and M3 had their LCIs in mid 2015, some of the changes - such as the minor updates to the interior - also carried over to the 4 Series and M4.

That is the case here as well. In this case, however, it's a more visible part of the update. And furthermore, it's a special case because the M3 happens to share its front end with the M4, including the headlights. By contrast the 3 Series front end is distinct from the 4 Series. This is also why the M3 was able to be offered with LED headlights from the time it started production in 2014 whereas the 3 Series did not yet offer them. It is also why the M3 did not get the 3 Series LCI headlights.

Some of the mags are indicated there could be mechanical or power updates. Any yay or nay on that?

Unlikely.

A new M4 CS is expected soon, though it is not established yet that it will debut in tandem with the LCI. However, regardless of when it debuts, insiders have said it will not feature more power than the M4 ZCP, despite the GTS hood which has widely been speculated to be covering a water injected S55.

[mkoesel]

Originally Posted by sand99

Besides the production dates, is there any solid intel to indicate that the F80 will get the 4 LCI headlights this time around? Because the previous e46 M3 and e90 M3 both retained their original headlights even though the 3 series sedan/coupe received revised headlights. So why would BMW change now? Have any F82 LCI mules been spotted with new headlights to date?

The answer to the bolded question is, "Yes." It was front-page news a few months ago.

http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1287429

The reason why past M3s have not received LCI headlights is because they were not drop in replacements - their shape changed from pre-LCI parts. This was the case for both two-door and four-door models. BMW has never seen it fit to create new front end bodywork for the M3 to accommodate them.

With the F3x, however, this trend has ended. The 3 Series LCI headlights are physically compatible with pre-LCI models and the same is true for the upcoming 4 Series LCI headlights and pre-LCI 4 Series models.

Both the M3 and M4 will be beneficiaries of this fact. This is due to what I said in my post above - they share front ends with one another, which in turn are based around the 4 Series headlight.

Incidentally, although they are very similar in appearance, the 3 Series and 4 Series headlight are not physically compatible.

[Powaup]

I'd love to know how many cars have been built

[claykin]

Originally Posted by DocWeatherington

Big changes? Possible just the rumor of new paint both.. who knows...CS retooling?

M3 2.0, M4 2.0

orange peel free paint finish? Wishful thinking

[jaybird124]

Originally Posted by mkoesel

It's not a second LCI. You have to keep in mind that while the 3 Series (and M3) and 4 Series (and M4) are on staggered schedules that are about 1.5 years apart, they do share many parts. This means that although their LCIs are also offset by 1.5 years, when either of them is updated there is potential for those updates to cross over to the other model. For example, when the 3 Series and M3 had their LCIs in mid 2015, some of the changes - such as the minor updates to the interior - also carried over to the 4 Series and M4.

That is the case here as well. In this case, however, it's a more visible part of the update. And furthermore, it's a special case because the M3 happens to share its front end with the M4, including the headlights. By contrast the 3 Series front end is distinct from the 4 Series. This is also why the M3 was able to be offered with LED headlights from the time it started production in 2014 whereas the 3 Series did not yet offer them. It is also why the M3 did not get the 3 Series LCI headlights.



Unlikely.

A new M4 CS is expected soon, though it is not established yet that it will debut in tandem with the LCI. However, regardless of when it debuts, insiders have said it will not feature more power than the M4 ZCP, despite the GTS hood which has widely been speculated to be covering a water injected S55.

Excellent insight. Thank you.

[jpics80]

I posted this a few days ago and nobody believed me.

[64-bit]

For the first time in my life, I don't see the need to wait/upgrade for a new LCI, or new features, my 2016 is so beautiful, and full of surprises and gadgets, that I still in my honey moon with it even after an entire year of ownership.

[M3 Adjuster]

[M3 Adjuster]

Originally Posted by 64-bit

For the first time in my life, I don't see the need to wait/upgrade for a new LCI, or new features, my 2016 is so beautiful, and full of surprises and gadgets, that I still in my honey moon with it even after an entire year of ownership.

Congratulations, young grasshopper !

[Speed-NYC]

Any news on my18 f36? Will they continue the model or discontinue as rumored? is now the last opportunity to get an f36?

[mkoesel]

Originally Posted by Speed-NYC

Any news on my18 f36? Will they continue the model or discontinue as rumored? is now the last opportunity to get an f36?

Discontinued? Where is this rumor coming from? The F36 has been a bright spot for BMW, boosting 4 Series sales significantly (as you'd expect since it is the most practical of the 4 Series lineup).

Currently, our crystal ball (thanks to forum member ynguldyn) says it will be in production until February 2021 - over four years from now.

http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=901686

[carsonweinand18]

So when will the next-gen G20 model be introduced? I thought it was going to be launched as a 2018 model.

[mkoesel]

Originally Posted by carsonweinand18

So when will the next-gen G20 model be introduced? I thought it was going to be launched as a 2018 model.

No. It will launch as a 2019 model as noted in the link I just included in my post above. Specifically, it will launch after the the F30 ends production for good in October 2018 (a fact that is also specified in the post at said link).

[raysspl]

Thank you for the update

[outatime e46]

So for those of us waiting for the MY2018 models - I can order it in the month of March? Is there anything I can do now to get the ball rolling?

As you can see, the wait is keeping me in agony.

[NorCal f80]

free back up cameras now since they are required in the US on all 2018 models ?

also my buddys individual build was just approved by bmw and production has not started yet . you think he has to wait until July ?