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I know people are crapping on Hyundai. Coming from Europe I can tell you that BMW was a shit company for a while as well. They went from making airplane motors and bikes, to appliances. Eventually they started to making cars; and these cars were NOT very good. Then the 1960s came and the company did a full 180 and started to produce quality vehicles. Hyundai is now doing a similar transformation.
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07-12-2018, 11:13 AM | #25 |
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Give credit to Hyundia/Genesis for making their vehicles stand out. This G70 doesn't look too bad and the Stinger actually has quite the presence when see anywhere. I turn to check it out and look at the lines.
All the BMW fanboys denouncing it just can't face the fact that their beloved brand has gotten soft, just as bloated, and out of touch of who they were.
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Also amusing that BMW's are being made in China, South Africa and South Carolina, but Korea is somehow seen as inferior. Should probably not look into where your tv came from.
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isnt it significantly cheaper than a jetta? like 5k or so on a 15-20k car
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Mercedes has the interior ATS & Alpha have the handling nailed Jag & Audi are closing BMW has the overall I'm just glad all these horses are pushing Bavaria to put out more |
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One minute they say they'll cut down on the models they'd roll out, and next thing you know, they've announced 15 new models. I think everyone idolized having a BMW, the ultimate driving machine, but I think people just want them now for a brand, like Nike, something to look nice in, in that 320i down Rodeo Drive.
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Even though I agree BMW now is much bleh comparing to BMW in the past . But if comparing BMW to other competitor in their normal car categories, eg. m340 vs s4 vs c45amg, I argue BMW still have something more to offer. (Not the case for some other competitor like alfa romeo, and sadly not true anymore for higher end model like M4 vs RS5 vs C63. Bmw not even has a car in same sector as r8 or amg gt).
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You guys realize that Hyundai hired the head of BMW M, Albert Biermann, a few years back...
He is responsible for this car and others, hence why Hyundai/Kia cars are starting have really good handling and performance. |
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youve got it all wrong there. Most auto magizines have Gulia #1, a4 #2, and the 3 series as #3. In 2016 i was looking at all the cars in the segment. I drove the a4, q50, 328/335, TLX, genesis, ats/cts. then last year i drove the guilia. my ranking: 1. A4-which is what i went went. Overall best package. Drove faster, chassis was better than the 3 series hands down. steering was a little numb but def better than the 3 series 2. alfa (i found it too responsive that it was jittery) 3. 3series/infiniti our e9x was the last generation of 3 series that was the "ultimate driving machine". the chassis and steering feel is not connected anymore.
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Its more than a match for the 328 but atop the 3-series, its still abit short.. The Quadrifoglio is a whole nother beast but it takes on the M3.. they don't take on the 340. Imo the 340 is the better car overall in compare. While the S4 may be more a match for the top of the 3 lineup tho its a bit more $$$, I don't think the A4 can compare. Please don't start on Infiniti.. no go If they fix the styling on the Giulia and give the standard Giulia a power upgrade then lets talk.. but then the G20 is coming so we'll have to see where the bar is then.. |
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I agree with u on the quadrifolio statement, but not the 340. the more power doesn't make up for the steering/chassis feel I also drove the XE. lol POS! it had 1200 miles on it. reverse stopped working in my test drive until I restarted the car and the car has a loud supercharger esque whine to it
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The LCI has a slightly tweaked steering & chassis upgrade from the 335 in addition to the xtra ponies
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The only thing Audi side I wanted to taste was the S4 but the local dealer was being anal about a test-drive so I said GFY Like I said the only one I am excited about if they get it right in the future is the Giulia.. more power.. tweak the styling.. get the quality right (yea right a BIG if .. but IF.. I will consider) otherwise the M340i has 380 ponies and will be a mini-me-m |
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Good luck to Genesis- Hopefully it’s still around in 10years.
Lexus and Infiniti can’t sell IS, GS, Q50 etc.....Most ppl buy the badge- MB, BMW and maybe Audi. |
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